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    The world's greatest deliberative body shouldn't hurry judgement just because there's an election around the corner.

    Isn't making the right call on a lifetime appointment worth it?

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    Honestly I'm more interested in how rapey magically paid off all his debts last year.

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    Honestly I'm more interested in how rapey magically paid off all his debts last year.
    What's your conspiracy?

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    What's your conspiracy?
    I have none. I would like for him to say how it was all paid off last year.

    Pretty simple.

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    “We have not received financial gifts other than from our family which are excluded from disclosure in judicial financial disclosure reports,”
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ughs-finances/

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    You guys automatically assume Kavanaugh assaulted her because it benefits blue team.
    You have automatically assumed she is lying because it benefits red team.

    See how that works?

    I give the benefit to just about any woman who makes such claims, because they almost universally are telling the truth, if you think that I make an exception in this case, you are wrong.

    Repeating your lie about what I believe will not make your lie any more true the 2nd or 3rd time around.

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    I give the benefit to just about any woman who makes such claims, because they almost universally are telling the truth,
    I'd like to see your authoritative source along with sample size.

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    You guys automatically assume Kavanaugh assaulted her because it benefits blue team.

    I will remain skeptical until she agrees to testify under oath.
    She took a polygraph and passed. And Is ASKING to be investigated.

    if Kavanaugh has nothing to hide he should ask to be investigated himself. But he seems dead quiet.

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    polygraph exams are hot garbage. that's why they're not admissible in court.

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    polygraph exams are hot garbage. that's why they're not admissible in court.
    Yet and still, she has witnesses. And is asking to be investigated. People who make up allegations don’t ask to be investigated by the FBI

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    You guys automatically assume Kavanaugh assaulted her because it benefits blue team.

    I will remain skeptical until she agrees to testify under oath.
    Critical thinking question:

    What percentage of rape accusations are, in fact, false?

    Researchers say it is pretty small. I predicted you would ignore evidence to that effect, because it means you would have to challenge your underlying assumption that Republicans can't do bad things.

    You blew right past it, as predicted.

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    Yet and still, she has witnesses. And is asking to be investigated. People who make up allegations don’t ask to be investigated by the FBI
    the Senate should look into it. it probably won't though.

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    I have none. I would like for him to say how it was all paid off last year.

    Pretty simple.
    [White House spokesman Raj Shah] told The Post that Kavanaugh’s friends reimbursed him for their share of the baseball tickets and that the judge has since stopped purchasing the season tickets.


    what's your conspiracy?

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    I'd like to see your authoritative source along with sample size.
    Why sure. That is a good thing.

    All things told, from everything I have read getting a good handle on the exact number is hard, mainly because of the way statistics are compiled, and often, not even reported in the first place.

    Getting the actual statistics, and understanding what you are looking at involves a few confounding factors that should be understood first.

    Let's start by examining why women who are telling the truth may sometimes falsely recant:
    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/58377...lt-are-treated

    From there on to what we can know.

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    [/FONT][/COLOR]what's your conspiracy?
    This White House usually tells the truth?

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    I'd like to see your authoritative source along with sample size.
    We can start with the first study I ran across. First sample 136.

    One of the most controversial disputes affecting the discourse related to violence against women is the dispute about the frequency of false allegations of sexual assault. In an effort to add clarity to the discourse, published research on false allegations is critiqued, and the results of a new study described. All cases (N = 136) of sexual assault reported to a major Northeastern university over a 10-year period are analyzed to determine the percentage of false allegations. Of the 136 cases of sexual assault reported over the 10-year period, 8 (5.9%) are coded as false allegations. These results, taken in the context of an examination of previous research, indicate that the prevalence of false allegations is between 2% and 10%.
    Lisak D1, Gardinier L, Nicksa SC, Cote AM. (2010)
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21164210

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    This White House usually tells the truth?
    it's their official statement. the alternative would be a conspiracy theory

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    I'd like to see your authoritative source along with sample size.
    We have one beginning study, that points to others, but some more context in terms of getting to know how statistics are compiled, and how that is difficult to get really good data.

    First reporting, like many things is voluntary:

    Since 1929, crime data, such as
    reported rapes, has been submitted
    voluntarily by police departments
    regarding certain crimes. The data
    becomes a part of the federal report
    known as the Uniform Crime Report
    (UCR). Through the UCR, the Federal
    Bureau of Investigation (FBI) issues
    guidelines and definitions related to
    processing sexual assault cases.
    Although not all police departments
    follow these guidelines, they do seek
    to process and clear cases from their
    active case log. UCR identifies three
    main ways to clear a case: cleared
    by arrest, cleared by exception,
    and unfounded (Archambault &
    Lonsway, 2007). Each category has
    subdivisions. The unfounded category
    has two subdivisions: false allegations
    and baseless.
    https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/...-Reporting.pdf

    I could march through the rest of the studies, but the above white paper summarizes a lot of what we do know.

    A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities
    including 2,059 cases of sexual assault found
    a 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway,
    Archambault, & Lisak, 2009).
    y A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston
    from 1998-2007 found a 5.9 percent rate
    of false reports (Lisak et al., 2010).
    y Using qualitative and quan ative analysis,
    researchers studied 812 reports of sexual
    assault from 2000-2003 and found a 2.1
    percent rate of false reports (Heenan
    & Murray 2006).
    Thousands of samples out of quite a few research papers.

    Enough to get a reasonable, evidence based conclusion:

    Women generally do not lie.

    Inconsistencies, despite what CosmicCowboy is so desperate to prove to support his "Republicans can't do any bad things" theory seems to imply, don't mean women are not truthful generally about these physical assaults.

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    What's your conspiracy?
    Want to deny some more science on this Darrin?

    What's your conspiracy? Did the big bad woman make it up so she can have the pleasure of fleeing her home from death threats?

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    Want to deny some more science on this Darrin?

    What's your conspiracy? Did the big bad woman make it up so she can have the pleasure of fleeing her home from death threats?

    She has an opportunity to her story. What science am I denying, btw?

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    This is what she should have done from the start. Someone gave her terrible advice when she said the only way she'd testify is if there is an FBI investigation. Now she's having to backtrack.

    Her testifying will have more immediate impact on the senators who are on the fence. If she makes a compelling argument this guy is finished. Instead she gave the republicans a reason to say welp, lets vote.

    That said, pretty pathetic how she's getting death threats by rape enablers. Republicans voters have no morals.

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    The world's greatest deliberative body shouldn't hurry judgement just because there's an election around the corner.

    Isn't making the right call on a lifetime appointment worth it?
    Garland would disagree

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    She has an opportunity to her story. What science am I denying, btw?
    Truthful women often wait.

    She has told her story to more than one person, years before now.

    The science that says that women rarely make things up. Read up a few posts.

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