But considering the hyperbole that is been bandied about on the left, that Roe v. Wade literally hangs in the balance of this nomination, her martyring herself for the cause is Something to consider
No that’s it in the room. There’s another girl she claimed was at the party, but not in the room. She hasn’t been talked about March, and I’ve only found her mention a couple of places. But she doesn’t have a recollection of the night in question. Can’t find a link right now I’m sorry I’m out at a dinner party. Went to the bathroom to finish up this conversation, because you’re just that important to me RG
why?
R v W, Obergefell, Brown v Board of Ed, ACA, and just about any other progressive ruling will be overturned ASAP.
I can see rulings that pre-empt ANY state or city from passing ANY gun regs as a violation of the weaponized, perverted 2nd Amendment
Lying to the FBI is a crime.
Why is she asking for an investigation, and the Republicans aren't? Gee, I wonder.
Thank you. I will make some effort to look it up myself, it seems relevant, and important.
Have fun.
The claim can't be proven or refuted with little or no detail after 35 years and is a classic he said she said. There is no risk to her.
K is an ESTABLISHMENT Republican choice - worked in Bush WH and supposedly more amenable to the moderate Repubs like Collins and Lisa what's her name - as opposed to Amy Barrett who would be more tea party/right repub choice.
Is there a bill cosby rape thread that i can cross reference some of these posts?
You're accusing her of lying.
Correct me if I am missing something:
1. Did Kavanaugh get accused by multiple women of the exact same crime?
2. Did the Bill Cosby accusers provide verifiable dates, times, and locations of the events so they could be verified?
3. Did Kavanaugh walk around in public telling jokes about how he attacked Ford?
4. Did the Cosby accusers file a police report instead of going to Sen. Feinstein?
5. Did the Cosby accusers allow Cosby to have his day in court?
6. Did the Cosby accusers ask that Cosby testify first and then they would testify and not let Cosby contest what they said?
7. Were the Cosby accusers willing to take the stand and be cross examined by an attorney to see if their testimony held up to scrutiny?
So you think she's lying about everything, CC?
Studies consistently prove that memories are some of the worst evidence to rely on because people commonly mis-remember. Unfortunately, the whole case Ford has involves her memory and no verifiable facts. So that's fine if you want to hid behind her memory, but if she can't point to something verifiable like when and where it happened, then how can you expect people to believe the account? I'm sorry, but just claiming that she is a woman or that it happened is not enough in the real world. In an imaginary liberal world, maybe it's enough to convict and put in prison, but not in the real world.
It's entirely possible. And it's entirely possible she is telling the truth. But possibilities have nothing to do with it. Is it probable that it happened? There are no facts to back that up and she further called her allegations into question when she chose to go to Sen. Feinstein instead of the local Maryland police department.
Christine Ford ‘Fell Off the Face of the Earth Socially’ After Alleged Assault
Those who knew her at the time described a change in her behavior around the time the alleged attack occurred. An unnamed male friend told the New York Times that after the summer of the alleged attack, Ford, then known as Chrissy Blasey, “fell off the face of the earth socially.”
“All I remember is after my junior year thinking, ‘Where’s Chrissy Blasey?’” the source told the Times.
“She was the sort of person a lot of people paid attention to — she was a leader, she was great.
I was like, where did she go?”
Rather than attend parties, Ford disappeared.
Other former classmates described Ford as “universally well-liked,” “self-possessed,” “cheerful, affable, funny, and super smart.”
These accounts given to the Times support Ford’s own statements that she was “derailed” for years after the alleged assault.
Her life following high school centered around her academic research, and later her family.
Those who spoke to the Times about Ford in her adult life described her as “a friendly but kind of geeky scientist,”
“very meticulous with data,” and
“someone taken very seriously.”
https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/blase...d-assault.html
FBI investigators could ask Ford contemporaries to come forward with accounts like the above, but Trash and the Repugs don't want to know, don't want anybody to know.
Because I find your positions in this thread particularly detestable, I'm going to take you to task here.
What is being described is disassociation. It is something extremely common in trauma victims -- INCLUDING men and women who are in the armed forces.
Frequently when extreme situations present themselves, the brain disengages as a way of preserving itself and the mental stability of the individual in question. This can result in complete cognitive impairment including a loss of sense of surroundings.
It is considered a relatively expected response to abnormal or traumatic situations.
Source: http://robertstclinic.co.nz/disassociation/
Furthermore, counseling and therapy have been shown to restore some or all of the memories associated with those events, and to provide restorative emotional and mental effects as well.
Source: http://www.isst-d.org/default.asp?contentID=52
By all means though, continue to bellow about things you've never studied and have absolutely no educational background or knowledge in. I wonder how you'd feel about facing a combat veteran and telling them they're a pussy for not remembering traumatic events they've experienced in the field and to just sack up and deal with it, or telling them how counseling won't help them. You're a sad person and I'm actually embarrassed for you, that you place politics above treating other people humanely and with compassion.
Jim Gensheimer, a close friend of Christine Blasey Ford,
the Palo Alto University psychology professor who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her while both were in high school,
shared a chilling detail with the Los Angeles Times:
Decades after Kavanaugh allegedly cornered Ford in a bedroom at a high school party,
she didn’t want to buy a home without a second exit from the master bedroom.
“Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that she’s afraid of being trapped,” Gensheimer told the Times.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/19/178789...sexual-assault
Makes sense if she doesn't care about a criminal prosecution.
Do you think she's lying about everything?
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-accuser-i-was
Ronald Reagan's daughter defends Kavanaugh accuser: "I was sexually assaulted and 'don't remember'"
INB4 Patti Davis gets called a liberal shill.
I don't know, but her actions are done in such a political context that it deserves more scrutiny than you are giving it. Also, I find it fascinating because it is such a perfect story for the situation. It is a story that is realistic, but not provable at all. It's the perfect way to destroy someone's character without having to be burdened with proving it. That's not a little too convenient for you given the timing?
Some of the responses in this thread truly astound me. How would any of you guys (or our husbands, fathers, brothers, sons) feel if you were alleged to attempted rape on so flimsy evidence and memories? This is purely political - 3 and a half decades later - it's preposterous. And I don't hear any sympathy for the hundreds of thousands of REAL evidence/rape kits sitting on shelves awaiting testing for lack of funding.
http://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2018/08/...tested-backlog
Last edited by rmt; 09-21-2018 at 06:00 PM.
I'm all for the FBI's investigating her claims.
You aren't.
Go figure.
Isn't it interesting that other similarly situated victims, from the girl abused by Roman Polansky, to the teenager abused by Kevin Spacey, to the many women raped by Harvey Weinstein can remember such basic details like where it happened, how it happened, when it happened, and the aftermath, and yet she can't and she didn't suffer harms nearly as traumatizing as those victims based on her allegations. And if memory is such a problem for her, how can we expect her memory to clearly identify Kavanaugh and essentially nothing else? Can't we at least said that it is just as possible her memory of Kavanaugh being the one is incorrect?
The funny thing is that the first place the FBI goes is to her door and and asks her the same basic questions I continually highlight and she has no answers. You want the FBI, have them show up to the hearing on Monday and question her in front of the reporters and news cameras. Let's see if she can answer the basic questions that the FBI will have for her since she is unwilling to answer them for anyone else.
The FBI can question Kavanaugh in front of the cameras too. Let's go all in...but somehow I'll bet Ford will back out.
Can we just conclude she's lying and move on?
I never followed his case closely. However, I do believe when an outcry is made, whether it's 1 or several, we need to take it seriously and investigate.
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