Reply With Quote
after all, what evidence would there be 35 years later?
that there's no extant evidence does not mean it didn't happen, just that it's not provable to a legal certainty.
not if it actually happened.
after all, what evidence would there be 35 years later?
that there's no extant evidence does not mean it didn't happen, just that it's not provable to a legal certainty.
Political games? I’m just saying that you can’t float a salacious rumor and then run and hide when people ask you to clarify with verifiable facts. If she came with verifiable facts and was convincing, I’d say investigate him with the local police and find another nominee.
But Ford made this public and personal. She can’t throw mud and run and hide. If she’s the corageous victim you want her to be, then she should step up to a mic under oath and give a full, verifiable account. That’s what she said she wanted to do until she was invited to do it.
had it happened to your wife, or your daughter -- or yourself -- but you couldn't prove it, would you come forward to prevent a man or woman from getting lifetime tenure on the most powerful court in the land?
Under oath and verifiable? thats not the liberal way, all about feelenz cuz.
it's not a salacious rumor if it actually happened
Speaking honestly and without political bias, aren’t you bothered that she refuses to answer a questionnaire or face questions about the allegations? Doesn’t it bother you that she wanted to testify only when she thought they didn’t want her to? Doesn’t it bother you that she wanted a proceeding where Kavanaugh was questioned first, and then she was questioned without giving him a chance to respond? This isn’t Central America. This isn’t Kangaroo court. It’s a basic tenant that the accused should be allowed to respond. Doesn’t it bother you that she won’t speak under oath?
a very large majority of rapes aren't reported, but I think we can say 100% of the victims are badly traumatized, for years.
billionaire Devos / DoE working hard to protect college rapists.
Brett Kavanaugh will be confirmed. Conservatives clearly hope that he will be a warrior when the eventual Dem Congress and/or Executive comes around.
This has a political cost, however, that's not transient, but will have historical implications. We'll see if the gambit pays off for them, or eventually ends up being too high a price.
No. I would go to the local authorities. I would distance myself from looking like it was political. I wouldn’t want that stink. Sure, if it happened I would want justice, but I would expect my wife or daughter to make an honest account. I’d do it in private. And I’d do it months before a hearing. There’s an honest way to launch and investigation and there’s what she did.
you assume a lot. my understanding was that negotiations about all of the above are ongoing.
are they not?
You know what, so are people that are wrongly accused. Go ask the Duke LaCrosse team what it’s like for the country to think you are a horrible rapist.
so, you'd not stick up for yourself or your loved ones if you had a bad case.
that's very lawyerly of you.
Why do you have to negotiate a full account of what happened. That should have been the first report she made.
When K or equivalent is seated, there is nothing opposition can do. SCOTUS is untouchable.
How are voters going to punish Repugs, connect any single Repug to K or other?, for putting these political hacks into judicial power for decades?
What? I wouldn’t publicize. I would report it to the police like everyone else does. Most people don’t bring legitimate rape stories 35 years from when they happened to a senator.
if Ms. Blasey Ford does not negotiate along the lines you think proper, it is improper. gotcha.
The Dems haven't done the same, quit your false equivalence bull . They confirmed a Reagan pick in an election year. Stealing the Garland seat away from Obama was straight Mitch McConnell and GOP senate gotry.
It's not going to have a price. Did stealing Obama's appointment have a price?
Well, for starters, Congress can propose changing the number of members of the Court. The amount is not set in the Cons ution and that has happened before (see Judicial Circuits Act of 1866 and Judiciary Act of 1869). The Court has had as little as 5 members, and as many as 10.
Again, there's a price being paid here for the political gambit of both the Garland delay and this confirmation. Further inflammation can only embolden the other side to play their own political gambits when in power.
btw, cd98, don't you find it curious that Ed Whelen somehow knew who was at the party and where they lived without talking to Ms. Ford?
Mr. Judge says he can't remember, who do you suppose might have told Mr.Whelen?
He didnt. He was speculating as to a possibility given what little we know. That’s why it was reckless and stupid.
They're all tied up. They look separate in the immediate context, but over time, it could have an impact as a turning point, with a very specific cost.
ie: If the country conservatives remain a minority and there's a court that rubberstamps conservative viewpoints, in time, that will have a heavy political cost for the GOP. Much like Congress popularity being absolutely terrible due to the current polarization.
Realistically, an opportunity like this doesn't come often historically, so that's why I'm certain BK will get confirmed. I personally never had a question, despite any allegations. Politically, he's a lot like Trump, in that he could kill 50 people on the street and he's still going to get confirmed.
They didn’t steal anything. They learned from Harry Reid that when you run the Senate you can change the rules to your benefit. That’s very different then accusing Garland of attempted rape with no evidence.
Ford is in the majority
"According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, there were 320,000 sexual assaults in the US in 2016.
And 77 percent of people who experienced rape or sexual assault say they did not tell police.
That number is likely much higher.
Though the NCVS data is the best the US has for now, critics have long warned that in addition to suffering from the risk of underreporting that befalls all self-reported surveys,
its methodology specifically discourages reporting.
In a study from five years ago, the National Academy of Sciences found that the government’s survey was probably vastly undercountingsexual crimes."
https://www.wired.com/story/whyididntreport-hashtag/
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions