Dallas cop fearing for her life shoots scary black man in apartment

[koriwhat]

Fired. Finally.

should get the needle tbh

[Trainwreck2100]

should get the needle tbh

You're a trump sho am i correct in assuming you're being facetious

[spurraider21]

You're a trump sho am i correct in assuming you're being facetious

no he just wishes death on every other person he encounters or hears about tbh

[koriwhat]

You're a trump sho am i correct in assuming you're being facetious

i didn't vote so wtf are you even talking about you ing basement dwelling re ? and no, i'm serious about that ... hang her, stick a needle in her arm, gas her, electrocute her, or shoot her in the face like she did that poor unsuspecting man.

[koriwhat]

no he just wishes death on every other person he encounters or hears about tbh

jump off a cliff got... lol

but seriously, do us a favor please.

[Spurminator]

should get the needle tbh

I disagree.

[Winehole23]

I wonder what DPD means by "adverse conduct"

Guyger did something either at the time of her arrest or post arrest that got her fired. It wasn't the murder.

[baseline bum]

I like this meme allegedly from Amber Guyger's Pinterest account

[pgardn]

i didn't vote so wtf are you even talking about you ing basement dwelling re ? and no, i'm serious about that ... hang her, stick a needle in her arm, gas her, electrocute her, or shoot her in the face like she did that poor unsuspecting man.

Instability.

How can you have empathy for the poor unsuspecting man with an illogical rage like this?
cmon man...

[koriwhat]

Instability.

How can you have empathy for the poor unsuspecting man with an illogical rage like this?
cmon man...

not as illogical as an off duty police officer mistaken her apartment for another's when she has no red door mat, doesn't live a floor up, and knew exactly what she was doing. there's def more to this story though. i'd say constant neighbor problems or heated emotional/physical relationship between the two. either way, she should be in jail with no bail waiting on her court case. it's ridiculous that she's out and about while that poor man is lying 6ft under as his family mourns his needless death.

[boutons_deux]

This got charged with murder

https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/...ling/619078538

verdict will not be unanimous

[spurraider21]

This got charged with murder

https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/...ling/619078538

it was the only outcome that made sense

a manslaughter charge was simply incompatible with the texas penal code.

she'll still have the right to stand trial and offer a defense and all that, though. there are still a lot of questions that need to be answered, but being charged with murder should have been a slam dunk long ago

[LaMarcus Bryant]

it was the only outcome that made sense

a manslaughter charge was simply incompatible with the texas penal code.

she'll still have the right to stand trial and offer a defense and all that, though. there are still a lot of questions that need to be answered, but being charged with murder should have been a slam dunk long ago

I agree personally that this was murder.... But charging with murder, isn't the prosecution now win or bust?
Meaning if she's not convicted of this murder she's off free from any penalty she woulda easily gotten via a manslaughter etc lower conviction right?

This will be interesting

[spurraider21]

I agree personally that this was murder.... But charging with murder, isn't the prosecution now win or bust?
Meaning if she's not convicted of this murder she's off free from any penalty she woulda easily gotten via a manslaughter etc lower conviction right?

This will be interesting

you can be charged with manslaughter and murder. jury might find the defendant not guilty for murder but guilty for manslaughter, etc.

but i dont see how manslaughter is even a legal possibility in this case, per the texas penal code

[spurraider21]

just looked back to find some of my older posts on this issue and found this one, back when prosecutors were only recommending manslaughter

Right, but they don't have to knock it down to manslaughter, it's already at manslaughter.

which makes no sense.

texas penal code defines manslaughter as the reckless killing of another. same penal code defines murder as intending to cause serious bodily injury to another and commits an act dangerous to human life that leads to the person's death.

only the latter could potentially apply to the facts of the case. whether the mistake of fact is enough to get her off is a different question. there is no scenario at all where manslaughter makes sense whatsoever. unless the cop changes her story to say she meant to fire a warning shot around him but accidentally hit him. or the weapon discharge was accidental. but that's not her story.

[spurraider21]

as a refresher

here are the grades in texas per their penal code (https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/D.../htm/PE.19.htm)

Capital Murder - this is the worst of the worst, and only applies in certain scenarios (killing more than one person, killing somebody under age of 10, killing someone during the commission of another felony, notably burglary, arson, kidnapping, aggravated sexual asasult, etc). this is a capital felony meaning you could get a death sentence

Murder (felony in first degree) - basically what you would think of as murder, for those that don't qualify in the category above. either:
a) intentionally causing the death of another
b) intent to commit serious bodily injury and committing an act clearly dangerous to human life (ding ding ding)
c) killing somebody in the commission or attempted commission of a felony aside from those listed in the "capital murder" guidelines

Murder (felony in the second degree) - when you have a murder from the previous section, but with an excuse such as adequate provocation or heat of passion. second degree mainly matters for sentencing purposes. but as you see, still murder. this is basically what Spurs Homer keeps suggesting, without realizing that it is still a murder in texas. in other jurisdictions, this would be pretty close to voluntary manslaughter.

mistake of fact would probably be a defense raised... and that could theoretically convince the jury to return a NG verdict. but it still wouldn't turn this into a manslaughter case
Manslaughter - reckless killing of another (texas does not differentiate between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter, but has a separate code section for vehicular manslaughter). there are different definitions of reckless... but consider it a conscious disregard of obvious risk of an unjustifiable risk. in other jurisdictions, this would be pretty close to involuntary manslaughter. like throwing a single punch at somebody's face and you didnt realize he has standing in front of a staircase and he falls and dies.

Criminally Negligent homicide - basically manslaughter... but not rising quite to the level of being "reckless." could be something like not calling an ambulance for a person who clearly needs it.

the appropriate charges should be murder (felony in first degree) and murder (felony in second degree). i really dont see how manslaughter is even an option given the facts we know about the case.

[spurraider21]

from mono's article:

Johnson said the Dallas County District Attorney's Office believed the shooting was a murder case "all along," but said it was the Texas Rangers who made the initial decision to file it as a manslaughter charge.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Yeah.. Something shady with the whole way the Rangers handled things

[Spurs Homer]

Well good. It all seemed to have worked out.

Some evidence presented itself and now they can charge her with murder. I wonder what it was? Did she lie? Was the "I thought I was in my own apt" a lie?

Something convinced the prosecutor that her reasons did not pass the smell test.

[Chris]

Saddest part about all of this is if the shooter was anything but white, this would be a non-story.

Hopefully she gets life.

[Pavlov]

Saddest part about all of this is if the shooter was anything but white, this would be a non-story.

Hopefully she gets life.

It would still be a story. Wouldn't have the potential racial angle this one has.

[Spurtacular]

It would still be a story. Wouldn't have the potential racial angle this one has.

Racial angles are clearly important; even if they have nothing to do with anything.

[Pavlov]

Racial angles are clearly important; even if they have nothing to do with anything.

They probably will here tbh. Probably already has with this useless ranger business.

[Spurtacular]

They probably will here tbh. Probably already has with this useless ranger business.

Probably
Probably if we really really believe

[Chris]

Probably
Probably if we really really believe