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    I had some dude ing to me about Calvin Ridley.
    Sean Lee's brittle ass is why we had to draft LVH, besides not like we would throw Ridley the ball anyways.
    Would have been nice if we could have traded back into the first round and selected him.. Cowboys need a ton of help at receiver and TE obviously.

    The Conor Williams pick looks worse by the game. He played decent against the NYG, but overall he and Tyron are ting the bed over on the left side together. If we weren't in dead money we could have afforded to offer Ron Leary more and could have kept the continuity..

    I'm convinced Collins has hit his ceiling and will never be dominant on the right side as his original draft projection suggested.

    I agree that I am not ready to give up on Dak as he has shown he can run an offense when he has better pass catching options.. He has this year and next before they have to decide, but the Cowboys typically like to lock up their key players before they can test the market. I'm sure they will focus on WR and TE this next draft, but this unexpected problem on the left side of the line that has emerged is going to put them in a bad spot when choosing which route to go with their 1st round pick.. The Cowboys are going to have to sign some free agents if they want to contend tbh, there are too many needs to rely on just drafting.

    Not to mention that again safety is a weakness for the defense and needs to be properly addressed at some point very soon too..

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    Would have been nice if we could have traded back into the first round and selected him.. Cowboys need a ton of help at receiver and TE obviously.

    The Conor Williams pick looks worse by the game. He played decent against the NYG, but overall he and Tyron are ting the bed over on the left side together. If we weren't in dead money we could have afforded to offer Ron Leary more and could have kept the continuity..

    I'm convinced Collins has hit his ceiling and will never be dominant on the right side as his original draft projection suggested.

    I agree that I am not ready to give up on Dak as he has shown he can run an offense when he has better pass catching options.. He has this year and next before they have to decide, but the Cowboys typically like to lock up their key players before they can test the market. I'm sure they will focus on WR and TE this next draft, but this unexpected problem on the left side of the line that has emerged is going to put them in a bad spot when choosing which route to go with their 1st round pick.. The Cowboys are going to have to sign some free agents if they want to contend tbh, there are too many needs to rely on just drafting.

    Not to mention that again safety is a weakness for the defense and needs to be properly addressed at some point very soon too..
    agreed.
    But we should not trade for ET.
    If this season continues to goes sideways even a 2nd pick is valuable.
    He looked great yesterday but like you said we have OL/WR/TE/DT issues and mayve even QB, unfortunately.

    ET is a final piece type assett not a core piece of a young team.

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    agreed.
    But we should not trade for ET.
    If this season continues to goes sideways even a 2nd pick is valuable.
    He looked great yesterday but like you said we have OL/WR/TE/DT issues and mayve even QB, unfortunately.

    ET is a final piece type assett not a core piece of a young team.
    maybe

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    agreed.
    But we should not trade for ET.
    If this season continues to goes sideways even a 2nd pick is valuable.
    He looked great yesterday but like you said we have OL/WR/TE/DT issues and mayve even QB, unfortunately.

    ET is a final piece type assett not a core piece of a young team.
    They'd have to be completely ing re ed to trade for ET at this point. If SEA balked at a 2nd rounder for him, then they're gonna rob Dallas real good to get him 13 weeks earlier. They aren't winning the SB with or without him this year so it makes no sense. At least with Dak they have another season after this one to start planning for the next step.. Dallas is going to have to nail their draft next season in rounds 1-4 to have a shot at contending with the current core they have.. This doesn't take into consideration that the Cowboys are also facing a complete overhaul for the coaching/management staff after another underwhelming year.

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    I think it is pretty clear this coaching staff has no idea how to consistently adapt to adverse situations on offense. The line has regressed under Alexander, and they seemingly abandon any concepts that work. Overall they are undisciplined on both sides of the ball, and continue to commit stupid penalties. Not a very well coached team.

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    Yeah the thought of Earl excited me before the season.....but in no way do i look at this team now and think we're an Earl Thomas away from running the table.

    The only thing that looks promising is the defense. Have a good year on that side of the ball, win 5 games, fire that ing pussy ass ginger piece of along with Linehan, get a young HC, and keep all the coaching the same on the defensive side of the ball. That would be a good scenario IMO.

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    1. Fire Garrett/Linehan/Kellen Moore. Hire a young offensive minded coach in the mold of a Mcvay and let him bring in an OC and QB coach and see what they can do with Dak on the final year of his rookie contact.

    2. Promote Richard to DC and get Lee to retire and become LB coach or something.

    3. If Dak improves like Goff did great. If not, you draft a QB high and start new next off-season.

    4. Move Collins back to LG and Connor Williams to RT. Make Tyron Smith take a pay cut or find a replacement this off-season.

    5. Sign Earl Thomas this off season. Draft a 1-tech/WR/TE early this off-season. We're no better than 7-9/8-8 this season so we'll draft around 15-18 again.

    The Eagles were in arguably worse shape than us a few years back and Peterson + some sound drafting/free agents changed everything. Only problem is we have Jerry Jones and I fear until he dies we won't amount to anything.

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    I think it is pretty clear this coaching staff has no idea how to consistently adapt to adverse situations on offense. The line has regressed under Alexander, and they seemingly abandon any concepts that work. Overall they are undisciplined on both sides of the ball, and continue to commit stupid penalties. Not a very well coached team.
    Yeah.. Linehan's ty ass conservative, then when time is running out start taking chances approach does not ing work. The NY game is proof that this offense needs to have an element of surprise to have a chance at moving the ball. This offensive line is not equipped to run the ball control smash mouth run style they want to play.

    Garrett may be likable with the players, but it's hard not to be likable when you have a locker room full of happy young millionaires who think their coach is just a cool guy. Anybody who has managed other people understands you have to know what motivates each individual, and they must be engaged and buy in to your philosophy. To get that buy in you HAVE to hold people accountable. People don't initially respond well to being held accountable for their work after they've become used to being able to slack around, but when the team starts performing better they buy in to the discipline aspect and end up not only liking you in the end, but respecting you for demanding more from them and improving them as people/employees. You cannot successfully lead at the highest level by being friends with your direct reports. Garrett using the "F word" in meetings might appeal to some players, but this and clapping his way into "improvement" is never going to work.

    If you've seen the do entary "Tuna's Last Ride" on YouTube, Parcells talks about how he arrived and the whole atmosphere around the facilities was relaxed and unprofessional.. dudes hanging out in the training room, joking and laughing and eating pizzas and while allegedly "rehabbing injuries" - he put a stop to it quick by turning down the AC to 50 degrees in the room and making it uncomfortable as for them to want to be in there bull ting around.. We need another leader who is gonna crack the whip like that and tighten up the ship IMO.

    Yeah the thought of Earl excited me before the season.....but in no way do i look at this team now and think we're an Earl Thomas away from running the table.

    The only thing that looks promising is the defense. Have a good year on that side of the ball, win 5 games, fire that ing pussy ass ginger piece of along with Linehan, get a young HC, and keep all the coaching the same on the defensive side of the ball. That would be a good scenario IMO.
    The Cowboys need to do something about safety.. I believe the last true investment they've made there was Roy Williams, and everybody else has been project players and even converted players like a JJ Wilcox. This OL problem really sets them back because a franchise LT is gonna take a top 1st round pick.

    As for the coaching staff, the new coach will want to bring in his own guys unless they do go with a young up and comer like a McVay who doesn't have his "guys" he trusts.. I honestly believe Kris Richard is the only coach who deserves to stay at this point.
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    1. Fire Garrett/Linehan/Kellen Moore. Hire a young offensive minded coach in the mold of a Mcvay and let him bring in an OC and QB coach and see what they can do with Dak on the final year of his rookie contact.

    2. Promote Richard to DC and get Lee to retire and become LB coach or something.

    3. If Dak improves like Goff did great. If not, you draft a QB high and start new next off-season.

    4. Move Collins back to LG and Connor Williams to RT. Make Tyron Smith take a pay cut or find a replacement this off-season.

    5. Sign Earl Thomas this off season. Draft a 1-tech/WR/TE early this off-season. We're no better than 7-9/8-8 this season so we'll draft around 15-18 again.

    The Eagles were in arguably worse shape than us a few years back and Peterson + some sound drafting/free agents changed everything. Only problem is we have Jerry Jones and I fear until he dies we won't amount to anything.
    1. Kellen ING Moore.. re ed ing hire, Jesus Christ. Promote the guy beaten in camp to coach the guy that beat him. How in God's ing name does that make sense to ANYBODY in management? Only the Dallas Cowboys tbh.

    2. Richard as a DC could be an option.. He seems like somebody who demands respect, and his age and him getting out there on the field and running drills with the team goes a long way towards that. Might as ing well officially make Lee a coach, he's already in that role now albeit on a star linebackers salary. He's obviously smart, but his body cannot hold up at this level.

    3. If the Cowboys draft a QB this next draft to start fresh, who will protect his blindside and ultimately his psyche? He's gonna come in with a ty run game, no true weapons, and is gonna take a load of sacks/hits/hurries.. His confidence will go the ter and he'll be done before he gets started. They have to take advantage of Dak's full 4 year of rookie scale pay IMO, and address QB the following year. The QB position lately has had a ton of success with players that were taken later in the drafts, so I wouldn't be against them drafting one in the 5th or 6th and trying to develop.

    4. I think this is where accountability comes in.. Conor Williams is undersized, doesn't appear to have any bulk either, and has questionable strength. He MUST get stronger.. a hard goal to add a bunch of muscle, but it can be done with the willpower and proper coaching. Mark Stepnoski is a perfect example of what can be achieved even at smaller than ideal size.

    5. I'm all for signing ET.. I'm just worried that the Cowboys will go into a Jerry lead panic mode, and end up breaking the bank on him for a multi-year contract and he ends up under performing when he gets the job security he wants. WR/TE was initially my thoughts as far as their top pick next year, but now that Tyron sucks I don't think that would be wise when Dak is gonna get murdered on the blind side all season anyway.

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    It's actually "Parcell's Final Ride" - but def a great watch:


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    Yeah.. Linehan's ty ass conservative, then when time is running out start taking chances approach does not ing work. The NY game is proof that this offense needs to have an element of surprise to have a chance at moving the ball. This offensive line is not equipped to run the ball control smash mouth run style they want to play.

    Garrett may be likable with the players, but it's hard not to be likable when you have a locker room full of happy young millionaires who think their coach is just a cool guy. Anybody who has managed other people understands you have to know what motivates each individual, and they must be engaged and buy in to your philosophy. To get that buy in you HAVE to hold people accountable. People don't initially respond well to being held accountable for their work after they've become used to being able to slack around, but when the team starts performing better they buy in to the discipline aspect and end up not only liking you in the end, but respecting you for demanding more from them and improving them as people/employees. You cannot successfully lead at the highest level by being friends with your direct reports. Garrett using the "F word" in meetings might appeal to some players, but this and clapping his way into "improvement" is never going to work.

    If you've seen the do entary "Tuna's Last Ride" on YouTube, Parcells talks about how he arrived and the whole atmosphere around the facilities was relaxed and unprofessional.. dudes hanging out in the training room, joking and laughing and eating pizzas and while allegedly "rehabbing injuries" - he put a stop to it quick by turning down the AC to 50 degrees in the room and making it uncomfortable as for them to want to be in there bull ting around.. We need another leader who is gonna crack the whip like that and tighten up the ship IMO.



    The Cowboys need to do something about safety.. I believe the last true investment they've made there was Roy Williams, and everybody else has been project players and even converted players like a JJ Wilcox. This OL problem really sets them back because a franchise LT is gonna take a top 1st round pick.

    As for the coaching staff, the new coach will want to bring in his own guys unless they do go with a young up and comer like a McVay who doesn't have his "guys" he trusts.. I honestly believe Kris Richard is the only coach who deserves to stay at this point.
    I couldn't agree more. The only issue is no halfway decent coach is willing to come here with Jerry breathing down their neck. Have you seen All or Nothing on Amazon? Jerry literally sits in team meetings and tells them what to do.

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    I couldn't agree more. The only issue is no halfway decent coach is willing to come here with Jerry breathing down their neck. Have you seen All or Nothing on Amazon? Jerry literally sits in team meetings and tells them what to do.
    Yeah.. we need another Parcells level coach who is going to demand full control again. Yeah, I've watched the whole season, great do entary. I don't entirely agree with the Jerry stuff though. He was there at all meetings of course, and I think that's probably a little intimidating to a bunch of the staff, but little stuff like Jason Garrett arriving last and sitting at the head of the table, etc, show he's still the boss. Jerry has given the Garrett regime more freedom than any of his other hires not named Parcells. I just think he instilled the patience and faith into the wrong guy IMO.

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    Yeah.. we need another Parcells level coach who is going to demand full control again. Yeah, I've watched the whole season, great do entary. I don't entirely agree with the Jerry stuff though. He was there at all meetings of course, and I think that's probably a little intimidating to a bunch of the staff, but little stuff like Jason Garrett arriving last and sitting at the head of the table, etc, show he's still the boss. Jerry has given the Garrett regime more freedom than any of his other hires not named Parcells. I just think he instilled the patience and faith into the wrong guy IMO.
    its funny/sad you believe that, Parcells was given free reign cause jerruh wanted his stadium, now that he has that he's never letting go. The reason garret is still employed is just cause he's a yes man

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    its funny/sad you believe that, Parcells was given free reign cause jerruh wanted his stadium, now that he has that he's never letting go. The reason garret is still employed is just cause he's a yes man
    What/how is funny/sad? The team posted three worthless 5-11 seasons with sorry ass Dave Campo the move was to turn around the frachise.

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    What/how is funny/sad? The team posted three worthless 5-11 seasons with sorry ass Dave Campo the move was to turn around the frachise.
    they're not getting a coach of that caliber so long as jones is alive

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    they're not getting a coach of that caliber so long as jones is alive
    Even dead which coach of that caliber would be available?

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    1. Fire Garrett/Linehan/Kellen Moore. Hire a young offensive minded coach in the mold of a Mcvay and let him bring in an OC and QB coach and see what they can do with Dak on the final year of his rookie contact.

    2. Promote Richard to DC and get Lee to retire and become LB coach or something.

    3. If Dak improves like Goff did great. If not, you draft a QB high and start new next off-season.

    4. Move Collins back to LG and Connor Williams to RT. Make Tyron Smith take a pay cut or find a replacement this off-season.

    5. Sign Earl Thomas this off season. Draft a 1-tech/WR/TE early this off-season. We're no better than 7-9/8-8 this season so we'll draft around 15-18 again.

    The Eagles were in arguably worse shape than us a few years back and Peterson + some sound drafting/free agents changed everything. Only problem is we have Jerry Jones and I fear until he dies we won't amount to anything.
    Agree with almost all of this but worry about how much ET will cost.

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    Like others, I didn't understand adding Kellen Moore as the QB coach for the same reasons that DJR210 stated. It makes absolutely no sense.

    One of the problems with this offense is that they want Dak to be a pocket passer when he clearly isn't that type of player. He's more of the mold of Cam than a pocket passer. Everything that the Cowboys were successful at against the Giants they failed to do against the Seahawks. They really didn't run any RPO until the 4th quarter. Their playcalling is predictable, and they make no offensive adjustments. Dak excels in a more uptempo offense, and yet they run the playclock down every single play. They kept Rico for certain situations, and yet they don't put him in the game for those situations. It's embarrassing that Ryan Switzer has more receiving TDs than Hurns, Gallup, Williams, and Beasley combined.

    I'd love to see this offensive group play under a younger coach who is more innovative. They need someone who will play these guys to their strengths, and mold their offense after them and not try to mold guys into their offense.

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    cowboys shouldn't be dealing for earl thomas ... their entire focus should be on offense.

    are they going to keep dak? based on that answer, they can go in different directions with the rest of their personnel

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    It's actually "Parcell's Final Ride" - but def a great watch:

    It's incredible he took the same ty 5-11 teams from 00-02 and turned them into a winner.

    All he did was add a couple of washed up vets lol.

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    It's incredible he took the same ty 5-11 teams from 00-02 and turned them into a winner.

    All he did was add a couple of washed up vets lol.
    Yep.. and changed to a 3-4 defense. It was all accountability, which this team lacks. That do entary shows the conversations that took place in San Antonio for training camp between him and Larry Allen. Allen was getting his pushed in then started throwing his little tantrum throwing his helmet and , and the video shows Parcells punking his ass about his behavior.. and that's on a Hall of Famer. The Cowboys need somebody like that, but I don't know who would demand that kind of respect besides maybe coaxing a Bill Cowher out of retirement.

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    just an average team.
    A below average team at this point, power rankings across the board have them among the bottom 5-6 teams

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    Anyone watch A Football Life: Tony Romo?


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    Anyone watch A Football Life: Tony Romo?

    No, but thanks for the recommendation. Will watch today

    In other news, Jaylon "Alpha" Smith just said as soon as Lee moves on, it's HIS defense. He's got some proving to do, but you gotta like his confidence.

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    No, but thanks for the recommendation. Will watch today

    In other news, Jaylon "Alpha" Smith just said as soon as Lee moves on, it's HIS defense. He's got some proving to do, but you gotta like his confidence.
    Vander Esch looked pretty good tbh.

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