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    straw upon straw.
    God must act as Blake and the Great Dustspeck command him to.
    You don't know what a strawman is.

    The bible says what it says. You don't get to cherry pick just the good stuff. Sorry.

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    You don't know what a strawman is.

    The bible says what it says. You don't get to cherry pick just the good stuff. Sorry.
    if you don't believe in the bible then how are you trying to hold others feet to the fire? hmm...

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    if you don't believe in the bible then how are you trying to hold others feet to the fire? hmm...
    i dont get this argument.

    if you tell people you're a sincere christian, and use that in discussions about your political beliefs (aka i cant support gay marriage because of my religion, or something like that), then you are the one strapping yourself to the bible. if somebody points out your hypocrisy by showing just how much you deviate from the book you claim to be bound to, then tough . nobody forced you (i'm not talking to you directly, kw) to claim to be bound by the bible, you did that yourself by bringing it into the convo

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    Literally may impact less than one tenth of a cent of your annual tax dollars, but sure, go ape over this while we're hitting a trillion dollar deficit.

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    Child abuse is my business. Sorry.
    These are foster children. As such they are under the care of the state. If you are as concerned as you say you are, you should adopt some of them and you can help determine their gender iden ies according to your own personal beliefs.

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    You don't know what a strawman is.

    The bible says what it says. You don't get to cherry pick just the good stuff. Sorry.
    You don't know what a strawman is.

    The bible requires an understanding of what is the context as well as what is literal and what is symbolic. You don't get to cherry pick just the stuff that suits your Dustspeck agenda. Sorry.

    Don't let me interrupt your support of turning 12 year olds into trannys.

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    These are foster children. As such they are under the care of the state. If you are as concerned as you say you are, you should adopt some of them and you can help determine their gender iden ies according to your own personal beliefs.
    Why would one need to go as far as adopting to show genuine concern?

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    You don't know what a strawman is.

    The bible requires an understanding of what is the context as well as what is literal and what is symbolic. You don't get to cherry pick just the stuff that suits your Dustspeck agenda. Sorry.
    You have to understand how to cherry pick what to believe from the bible.

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    Resident cuck with 15 posts in the first 51. He takes his emasculation rights seriously.

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    Resident derp goes right to talking about me. He takes his obsession seriously.

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    You don't know what a strawman is.

    The bible requires an understanding of what is the context as well as what is literal and what is symbolic. You don't get to cherry pick just the stuff that suits your Dustspeck agenda. Sorry.

    Don't let me interrupt your support of turning 12 year olds into trannys.
    I don't have a dustspeck agenda but if there were one, it'd be way more peaceful than the warmongering bible

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    Resident derp goes right to talking about me. He takes his obsession seriously.
    How much does your ex-wife pay you in alimony?

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    I don't have a dustspeck agenda but if there were one, it'd be way more peaceful than the warmongering bible
    Does the quran warmonger?

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    From what I've read it's not medically necessary and many of them grow out of it. So if that's true (possibly not true) then it's definitely child abuse.
    The law states that funds should not be denied when it's medically necessary. That determination is made by a health professional. Not the child or the parents.

    I don't know what you read, but I think it makes sense that health professionals make health decisions? They do it for children all day every day, not sure how this is actually any different, tbh.

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    Mental health profeshionals making tranny decisions for 12 year olds.
    Lovely.
    and of course these overpaid mental health profeshional phucks are accountable after they contribute to this, right?
    https://williamsins ute.law.ucla.e...port-Final.pdf

    Overall, the most striking finding of our analysis was the exceptionally high prevalence of lifetime suicide attempts reported by NTDS respondents across all demographics and experiences.

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    Transgender people face alarmingly high risk of suicide
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mpts/31626633/
    Mental health issues are a major problem in this country, and they've been demeaned as some sort of voodoo, when they carry serious consequences. Including suicide, as you noted.

    I definitely appreciate that it's health experts handling this instead of leaving it to congressmen.

    I remember when some people decried about death panels. In other words, non-professionals assessing what's good or not for you. Now we're going to when professionals do it?

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    The law states that funds should not be denied when it's medically necessary. That determination is made by a health professional. Not the child or the parents.

    I don't know what you read, but I think it makes sense that health professionals make health decisions? They do it for children all day every day, not sure how this is actually any different, tbh.
    My current thinking is that the health professionals aren't very accurate in assessing the long-term for these children. Many of these children grow out of this and they administrating permanent damage when they are incorrect.

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    My current thinking is that the health professionals aren't very accurate in assessing the long-term for these children. Many of these children grow out of this and they administrating permanent damage when they are incorrect.
    Well said. Everybody’s all gung-ho about supporting transgender people, and that’s fine. But when it starts to involve confused children, we really don’t yet know what damage we could be inflicting on them.

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    The disgusting coercion from attention starved parents looking to strut their poor child out as something they aren't, and are mentally incapable of truly understanding, is absolutely abhorrent. Don't care about the bill, there are bigger, more laughable laws being passed in this show every day, but I am concerned about the system put in place afterwards, this state passes a whole lot of hot gas with what the bill is supposed to accomplish and the systems they put into place are so derelict and seem like they pass laws as beta tests.

    Ugh, now Gavin Newsome is coming because he's more corrupt and connected. Moonbeam's agenda of stealing farmland/state owned water while killing the delta environment and the delta economy killing with tunnels will be completed. Countless tens of billions of dollars will be stolen from tax payers so Gov. Newsome can line his pockets while the bullet train to nowhere goes nowhere and the state will continue to make the divide between poor and rich even worse. California is just a disgusting scene right now unless you're a 1-5%er.

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    My current thinking is that the health professionals aren't very accurate in assessing the long-term for these children. Many of these children grow out of this and they administrating permanent damage when they are incorrect.
    That's why you let a professional evaluate if it's medically necessary. Your contention is that it never is, but that's supported by nothing you've shown us so far.

    The brain is just another organ. If a kid shows up with a failure in the pituitary gland, he/she might be administered growth hormones. A professional makes the determination whether it's necessary on a case by case basis.

    Hormones, especially on children, might have other side effects too, both physically and psychologically, but it's the best treatment we have so far for that condition. I don't see how this is any different.

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    The disgusting coercion from attention starved parents looking to strut their poor child out as something they aren't, and are mentally incapable of truly understanding, is absolutely abhorrent. Don't care about the bill, there are bigger, more laughable laws being passed in this show every day, but I am concerned about the system put in place afterwards, this state passes a whole lot of hot gas with what the bill is supposed to accomplish and the systems they put into place are so derelict and seem like they pass laws as beta tests.

    Ugh, now Gavin Newsome is coming because he's more corrupt and connected. Moonbeam's agenda of stealing farmland/state owned water while killing the delta environment and the delta economy killing with tunnels will be completed. Countless tens of billions of dollars will be stolen from tax payers so Gov. Newsome can line his pockets while the bullet train to nowhere goes nowhere and the state will continue to make the divide between poor and rich even worse. California is just a disgusting scene right now unless you're a 1-5%er.
    I'm ok with people disagreeing that this law is unnecessary. But child abuse? that's hyperbole. Mental health is a serious matter, not just on children.

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    I think the real issue, particularly here with the OP, is about 'transgender' triggering the *ding*

    Whether you believe sexuality or gender is natural or not, and all that discussion, there's real people struggling psychologically with this stuff that need help, and thoughts and prayers ain't cutting it.

    As Fabbs pointed out, there's a high risk of suicides, stuff that needs to be taken seriously.

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    That's why you let a professional evaluate if it's medically necessary. Your contention is that it never is, but that's supported by nothing you've shown us so far.

    The brain is just another organ. If a kid shows up with a failure in the pituitary gland, he/she might be administered growth hormones. A professional makes the determination whether it's necessary on a case by case basis.
    Put me in the camp calling bull on "medically necessary" also.

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    Does the quran warmonger?
    Yes, idiot.

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    I'm ok with people disagreeing that this law is unnecessary. But child abuse? that's hyperbole. Mental health is a serious matter, not just on children.

    I didn't say child abuse. I said the parents, who more than likely suffer from mental illness, that coerce children into this stuff so they have a conversation topic or a "special" or "unique" child is disgusting.

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    My current thinking is that the health professionals aren't very accurate in assessing the long-term for these children. Many of these children grow out of this and they administrating permanent damage when they are incorrect.
    What are you basing this thinking on, Dr. Nathan?

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