James Woods banned by Twitter because...... drum roll......

[Spurtacular]

IOW, The first amendment doesn't protect arrangements between 'professionals' or private parties, to be more concise. Only regulates Congress and Congress-created ins utions (since Congress is the only branch of government that can create laws), which fall under the same umbrella.

Arrangements between private parties fall into contract law, and such arrangements stipulate what can and cannot be done. If Twitter would want to extend 1st-amendment-like protections to it's users, they can do so in their Terms of Service. They do not, AFAIK. Then again, that has nothing to do with cons utional protections, just as long as they don't run into other cons utionally protected rights or laws that don't specifically limit the government (ie: discrimination by race, color, origin, etc).

That's why I mentioned that if you want government to regulate free speech between private parties, a law would need to be passed by Congress to do that. However, it's a BAD IDEA (tm), if you consider the slippery slope it creates. Today it might help Woods sue Twitter, but tomorrow, it might be used by the next 'Democrat facist' president to shut down opposing voices.

This is all based on granting that Twitter properly enforcing terms of service. It is readily apparent that TOS is being weaponized to go against certain political factions and is thereby violating people's freedom of speech.

[Spurtacular]

You never back up any argument you make on this board. You think word count + thesaurus = internets victory

Now avoid backing up your argument some more.

Today's snowflake

[Pavlov]

This is all based on granting that Twitter properly enforcing terms of service. It is readily apparent that TOS is being weaponized to go against certain political factions and is thereby violating people's freedom of speech.

today's word salad

[ElNono]

This is all based on granting that Twitter properly enforcing terms of service. It is readily apparent that TOS is being weaponized to go against certain political factions and is thereby violating people's freedom of speech.

If you don't want to enter into an agreement with Twitter, then you don't. If you do, it's their service and their terms. Nobody is forced to agree to anything, nor anybody's rights being violated.

This is contract law in a nuts and applies to pretty much any instance when private en ies are involved.

If Woods feels like the contract arrangement with Twitter is not being fulfilled, he can always use the courts. I would expect a guy like him, who I'm sure has a lawyer readily available, would've already sued if he had a case.

[ElNono]

Nobody should be mocking anybody else for not knowing something. Nobody was born knowing it all.

Spurt is not the first to be confused about what the 1st amendment protects. I would even go as far as saying it's a fairly common mistake.

Government has other laws or tools to intervene when it feels that certain companies have taken over a certain percent of the market, and hold a dominant position which might be counterproductive to consumer's benefits, such as anti-trust law.

[DMC]

Yeah you could have said "individual". But you added black to it. I got triggered by you getting it wrong.

So the guy wasn't black?

NY Times - Two black men whose arrests at a Starbucks in Philadelphia led to protests and plans for bias training at thousands of the chain’s locations spoke about the ordeal for the first time on Thursday, saying they were not told by the police why they were being escorted out.

Washington Post - Two black men arrested at Starbucks settle with Philadelphia for $1 each

USA Today - The incident at a Philadelphia Starbucks where two black men were arrested while waiting for a white friend is novel in its coverage, but African Americans say this type of treatment isn't new.

CNN - Black men arrested at Philadelphia Starbucks reach agreements


Do you need more or are you just satisfied to be a ?

[Blake]

Nobody should be mocking anybody else for not knowing something. Nobody was born knowing it all.

Spurt is not the first to be confused about what the 1st amendment protects. I would even go as far as saying it's a fairly common mistake.

Government has other laws or tools to intervene when it feels that certain companies have taken over a certain percent of the market, and hold a dominant position which might be counterproductive to consumer's benefits, such as anti-trust law.

Derp is being mocked for talking out of his ass; not because he's an ignorant re . I don't mock re s just for being re s.

[Blake]

So the guy wasn't black?

NY Times - Two black men whose arrests at a Starbucks in Philadelphia led to protests and plans for bias training at thousands of the chain’s locations spoke about the ordeal for the first time on Thursday, saying they were not told by the police why they were being escorted out.

Washington Post - Two black men arrested at Starbucks settle with Philadelphia for $1 each

USA Today - The incident at a Philadelphia Starbucks where two black men were arrested while waiting for a white friend is novel in its coverage, but African Americans say this type of treatment isn't new.

CNN - Black men arrested at Philadelphia Starbucks reach agreements


Do you need more or are you just satisfied to be a ?

Yeah I'm confident they were tossed for being black. I'm not sure you think the same.

[hater]

Today's snowflake

[DMC]

Yeah I'm confident they were tossed for being black. I'm not sure you think the same.

I never said they were tossed for being black. That's your narrative.

[Blake]

I never said they were tossed for being black. That's your narrative.

It's your sloppy wording.

[DMC]

It's your sloppy wording.

Black guy gets kicked out of Starbucks - capitalism and free enterprise

GOPer get temp ban on Facebook - 1st Amendment issue

Same basic situation except the 1st was unwarranted.

[Blake]

Black guy gets kicked out of Starbucks - capitalism and free enterprise

Perfectly worded where no one could think anything except what you were thinking.

[DMC]

Perfectly worded where no one could think anything except what you were thinking.

Pretty sure no one else had a problem with it. You go into a goldmine looking for dirt because you just happen to be triggered very easily.

[Blake]

Pretty sure no one else had a problem with it. You go into a goldmine looking for dirt because you just happen to be triggered very easily.

It was a wrong statement and I called you out on it.

If you want to stay pissy about it that's on you.

[Spurtacular]

If you don't want to enter into an agreement with Twitter, then you don't. If you do, it's their service and their terms. Nobody is forced to agree to anything, nor anybody's rights being violated.

This is contract law in a nuts and applies to pretty much any instance when private en ies are involved.

If Woods feels like the contract arrangement with Twitter is not being fulfilled, he can always use the courts. I would expect a guy like him, who I'm sure has a lawyer readily available, would've already sued if he had a case.

You always talk about the legal system as though it's smooth sailing. It isn't. Winning cases can be hard and costly even when you have a case. The wheels of justice move very slowly. In the meantime, a lack of a case is not proof that Twitter is acting legally or within good faith.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah I'm confident they were tossed for being black. I'm not sure you think the same.

Today's cuck

[Blake]

Today's cuck

Still stalling.

[Pavlov]

You always talk about the legal system as though it's smooth sailing. It isn't. Winning cases can be hard and costly even when you have a case. The wheels of justice move very slowly. In the meantime, a lack of a case is not proof that Twitter is acting legally or within good faith.

a lack of a case means there is no case.

At all.

Twitter would already have been sued had there been any case.

[ElNono]

You always talk about the legal system as though it's smooth sailing. It isn't. Winning cases can be hard and costly even when you have a case. The wheels of justice move very slowly. In the meantime, a lack of a case is not proof that Twitter is acting legally or within good faith.

America has one of the speediest judicial systems in the world. The problem is that if you think it's slow to win a case even when you have a case, it's even worse when you don't. A decent lawyer probably gave him good advice.

And yeah, a lack of a ruling to the contrary means Twitter is indeed acting legally and in good faith. That's what presumption of innocence is. The burden of proof is on the accuser to prove that's not the case.

I mean, honestly, if there would be even a hint of Twitter's TOS being unenforceable or illegal, they would've been sued a long time ago. They have a lot of money, which puts a big bullseye on them for any seasoned law firm.

[AaronY]

America has one of the speediest judicial systems in the world. The problem is that if you think it's slow to win a case even when you have a case, it's even worse when you don't. A decent lawyer probably gave him good advice.

And yeah, a lack of a ruling to the contrary means Twitter is indeed acting legally and in good faith. That's what presumption of innocence is. The burden of proof is on the accuser to prove that's not the case.

I mean, honestly, if there would be even a hint of Twitter's TOS being unenforceable or illegal, they would've been sued a long time ago. They have a lot of money, which puts a big bullseye on them for any seasoned law firm.

lol wasting reasonable. well thought out, logical argument on Derptacular.. wrong with you nono. get a hobby or something

[ElNono]

lol wasting reasonable. well thought out, logical argument on Derptacular.. wrong with you nono. get a hobby or something

I have a bunch of hobbies... and black friends... so not a racist, tbh

I'm just educating when I can one post at a time. You just hatin' coz I'm better than the libural MSM...

[DMC]

It was a wrong statement and I called you out on it.

If you want to stay pissy about it that's on you.

no

[spurraider21]

I have a bunch of hobbies... and black friends... so not a racist, tbh

I'm just educating when I can one post at a time. You just hatin' coz I'm better than the libural MSM...

is that what you think is happening? ... so naive

derp disregards everything you tell him because you haven't taken the redpill bro

he just knows stuff. its common knowledge.

[ElNono]

is that what you think is happening? ... so naive

derp disregards everything you tell him because you haven't taken the redpill bro

he just knows stuff. its common knowledge.

Spurt isn't the only audience here, tbh...