Yep. Completely fine.
Then Toronto 2019 and Sas 2020
I would trade DeRozen for Butler straight up. I'd even throw in Poeltl for free.
Butler is a mediocre off the ball shooter......makes sense to pair him up w/ a back court that can't space the floor
They would basically be a poorman's Heatles on offense without the defensive versatility
do not want. he is not a difference maker
Patty Mills, 2020 first, and Toronto's 2019 first. To me that is fair. They get 2 firsts and a tenacious, energetic scorer and hustler. We get Butler to play alongside Aldridge, Derozen, and Murray....a win win for both teams.
Switcg it to raptors 2019 first and throw in 1 more player from minnesota and I will take it.
surprised he hasn't been traded yet. rumors were that it was gonna happen sooner rather than later.
Maybe we can still steal him close to the deadline, then. Mills/Bertans and both firsts for Butler and Bates-Diop.
Wish Tibs was watching the scrimmage tonight. He could have hot shooting Forbes and 1st round pick for Butler.
Minnesota's preferences in a Miami deal have included center Bam Adebayo, guard Josh Richardson and a protected 2019 first-round pick, league sources said. A trade could take on a larger construction to include more players, league sources said.
In any Butler deal, Minnesota has wanted to unload center Gorgui Dieng and the $48 million left on his contract.
What do you guys think of that Miami proposal? Is Miami offering those players, or is that what Minnesota is asking for, plus unloading Dieng?
can't see reilly overpaying by proposing an offer like that - it sounds more like wishful thinking on the minny side.
Wow a contract and two garbage picks, how could they say no?
Which is why it stalled
Butler waiting until camp starts to demand a trade puts Minny in a tough position. We already got rid of a team cancer, no need to add another one.
This has been going on for weeks, Choppa. Thibs is being a stubborn ass. He’s getting nothing good, and him letting it drag into training camp was a huge mistake.
Good to know.
I was always a fan of Butler...of course I was always a fan of KL, too. I’m probably sensitive now to guys demanding trades when they appear to be in a decent situation where they’re at. Minny will probably need to wait for a team to get desperate and up their offer after the season gets going. Some under-performing team will want him...or some over-performing team feeling like he’s their opportunity to get a shot at the Finals.
That’s unless T’Wolves ownership just dumps him on the cheap before then to turn the page. There’s no way they’re getting anything close to full value right now. You’re right if this is Thibs doing he’s f’d it up by not moving him earlier.
Last edited by Ed Helicopter Jones; 10-05-2018 at 08:50 AM.
If you are sensitive to any player requesting a trade due to the Kiwi drama you will probably reject any star in the market. I am not saying go after Butler, Spurs team looks good provided they get good production from their youth (bc we know what the vets are already). But every FA star in the market is someone who wanted to leave their team. Whether they do in it in FA or in the last season of their deal is inmaterial. The ones who want to leave while they still have a year in their deal actually set up their departed team to be in a better situation than if they left like Lamarcus Aldridge, Durant, and Lebron. What makes the Kiwi drama actually drama was the year he sat out with the injury and the whole thing that went on last season while he was still under contract. Don't let that poison you bc any FA star you covet is going to be someone who wanted to leave their team.
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-05-2018 at 03:09 PM.
Me love me some "why don't you take my washed up/bad contract garbage players + a couple of non lottery picks and I'll take your star" trade proposition...
Jimmy actually isn't worth a ton. I get that there are ridiculous trades being floated, but in addition to an injury history that rivals Kawhi, he's also been overplayed like many Thibs proteges, and has a history of NOT mentoring young players to the point of near abuse. His best days are behind him, and I think a lot of teams realize that. I'm not sure teams want him as anything but a rental. He's going to command a big contract from someone. Like the game musical chairs, you don't want to be stuck being that team.
Jimmy Butler has returned to Minnesota and, in a meeting with president and coach Tom Thibodeau, reiterated his desire to traded, league sources told The Athletic.
Butler has not practiced with the team since training camp opened on Sept. 25, just over a week after he first met with Thibodeau to personally deliver his trade request. The Wolves have had conversations with a number of teams, most notably the the Miami Heat, but have yet to close a deal.
Butler worked out in Minneapolis on Monday and talked with Thibodeau, making clear that nothing has changed in the last three weeks, sources said. It remains unclear when, or if, he will join the team in practice as they prepare for the season opener at San Antonio on Oct. 17.
https://www.nba.com/article/2018/10/09/report-jimmy-butler-reiterates-trade-request
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