murray has torn ACL

[phxspurfan]

If for real, wow. Just wow

[Spur|n|Austin]

whats next? DeRoZaN torn Achilles? RuDy Gay Retears ACL? LMA heart issues?

When did Gay tear his ACL?

[vander]

I just hope he can recover to 100% and this doesn't ruin his career/destroy his potential

this particular season was lost already anyways, so no harm done.

the heavy minutes that Forbes/White get will either expose them or force them level up.

[phxspurfan]

[phxspurfan]

As a silver lining, if the Spurs start losing games early due to their PG situation costing games, it may bring on the Armageddon rebuild sooner than later as people were clamoring for.

Who is the distributor? Demar? White? They may try Mills but we know that isn't going to work. And neither is Forbes. So either White becomes a decent PG in front of our eyes or Demar shows some nice point forward value. Or some weird point center crap like Denver does with Jokic and the Grizz did with Gasol after Conley went down.

[dabom]

Change your avi to Kawhi or something my man. We can't take anymore injuries.

Did you say DeRozan?

[koriwhat]

well, guess i can just keep focusing on other things besides spurs bball i suppose. here's to hoping for a speedy recovery for both murray and walker.

[TimDunkem]

well, guess i can just keep focusing on other things besides spurs bball i suppose. here's to hoping for a speedy recovery for both murray and walker.

Are you saying 82 games of Mills and Forbes doesn't get you excited for this season?

[cd98]

Obviously sucks. No getting around that.

Silver linings though?

-White, Mills, or Forbes starting for Murray makes it much easier to play DeRozan and Gay together at the wings. If Gasol can take threes at a decent clip, the spacing is actually quite nice. I'd say Forbes should start with DeRozan, Gay, Aldridge and Gasol. Bench should be Mills, White, Belinelli, Bertans and Poeltl.

-Walker may well get a legit chance at a rotation spot if he can get back into form. As far as I can tell, the rotation is filled now, there is no one able come in if someone misses games. Walker should be back in December or January, two months were the team is in full grind mode. If he can start getting minutes going into the RRT, he'll likely have a spot in the rotation going forward.

-The tea leaves suggest PATFO is looking at 2020 as another possible summer to use cap space. Like with Leonard and Green in 2015, PATFO may want to use DeJounte's cap hold to sign other guys before using Bird Rights to go over the cap. But Murray's injury provides a good opportunity to try to lock in up cheaply on an extension. Rich Paul is DeJounte's agent, and I don't think he would have extended for anything less than the max before this. Unless he showed out this year, he wasn't worth that. Maybe now that he missed out, they'll be more inclined to come to the table on something like $72M/4? The alternative is Murray being in full contract-year mode. That doesn't sound horrible.

On DeJounte's value, this makes it hard to see what he is worth. Last year, he was clearly not worth the max and was one of the worst starters as far as a scorer. And while his defense and rebounding were great, I would think that's easier to replace than scoring and playmaking at that position. This was the year to see what he was worth. Spurs seemed convinced he was an all star. I didn't see that. But my guess is that Murray will be looking for all-star level payment.

[cd98]

Are you saying 82 games of Mills and Forbes doesn't get you excited for this season?

I actually think watching Mills and Forbes is exciting every time they dribble the ball down the court. It feels like a defender could pick off their dribble at any moment.

[koriwhat]

Are you saying 82 games of Mills and Forbes doesn't get you excited for this season?

maybe on a ymca court but not in the nba.

[playblair]

tank for zion the best prospect since lebron/ he can be the new duncan franchise player

[TimDunkem]

I actually think watching Mills and Forbes is exciting every time they dribble the ball down the court. It feels like a defender could pick off their dribble at any moment.

Damn. Today's Spurs.

[phxspurfan]

maybe on a ymca court but not in the nba.

on a YMCA court someone would punch the out of Forbes' stupid hoighty toity face

[Chinook]

On DeJounte's value, this makes it hard to see what he is worth. Last year, he was clearly not worth the max and was one of the worst starters as far as a scorer. And while his defense and rebounding were great, I would think that's easier to replace than scoring and playmaking at that position. This was the year to see what he was worth. Spurs seemed convinced he was an all star. I didn't see that. But my guess is that Murray will be looking for all-star level payment.

I think Rich Paul was going to guarantee that. But coming off an injury, things are different. Remember, teams can sign guys to extensions starting July 1, so Murray likely won't be completely healthy when they first go to the table. Paul has famously had clients bet on themselves before. But I'd have to believe that Noel's complete failure has tempered some of that fire. It's going to come down to how the injury is healing and what type of person Murray is when it comes down to risk versus reward.

[buujness]

One terrible thing about this season: it's going to be a lot harder to avoid having Mills and Forbes together at the same time...

Wonder what they'll do about the starting lineup. Not sure how much I like having Gay and DeRozan starting together. Sure, there will be more space with any one of White, Forbes or Mills out there, but that's still a lot of guys in one lineup that are most effective with the ball in their hands. Gay's still better suited coming off the bench with Gasol, IMO. It will be interesting to see if they try to cover up some of the defensive deficiencies with a 3-and-D guy, or if they'll just steer into the skid, say " defense, we're going to outscore you" and do something crazy like start Belinelli or Bertans.

Poeltl is also going to have to find a way to be effective offensively with Aldridge, because I'm not sure that the starting lineup can afford to lose his rim protection at this point. Having two really solid big guys can help cover some holes defensively.

[Cry Havoc]

Ugh now if we miss the playoffs (still unlikely but whatever), ESPN is going to crow all the they can about calling it.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

This season is over before it even started. Paging Porky...paging Porky...

[Cry Havoc]

This season is over before it even started. Paging Porky...paging Porky...

I mean, we weren't winning the le this year anyway.

[DJR210]

Another year of mediocrity while getting a high teen/low 20th pick. Woooooooooo!

At least we get TWO 1st rounders in the 20's!!

[DJR210]

tank for zion the best prospect since lebron/ he can be the new duncan franchise player

With Spurs luck we'd get the most lottery balls and still wind up in the teens

[TE]

It’s very unfortunate.

Nothing more to say.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

I mean, we weren't winning the le this year anyway.

Nah this team was 2nd round fodder at best. Now they may not even make playoffs

[rastaspur]

Crappy news.

[boutons_deux]

What a joke. Season is over before it even began.

can't even survive pre-season