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    Never ever? So one party Democratic rule forever and ever and ever?
    Conservatives, by their nature, resist change. If something in the self-iden y is self-destructive, that implies that any real change will be a long time coming.

    Perhaps I will live to see a reborn Trump party, but I doubt it.

    California's GOP has not recovered from their ting all over Hispanics.

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    My (jewish) buddy is on pace to vote Republican for the first time in his life. He was very Anti-Trump during the election and even after the first year. He got really bitter over the past 6 months.

    Main complaints I think would be
    - SJWs attacking comedy
    - the lefts support of illegals
    - anti White

    Americans are very patriotic so I think it rubs many people the wrong way how some openly root against America just because their candidate is not currently in office
    Yeah, this sounds like bull . The sort of insecure persecution complex that leads one to believe Democrats are "anti white" doesn't just happen overnight.

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    Never ever? So one party Democratic rule forever and ever and ever?
    And I should say, as it tends to bear repeating:

    One party rule is bad, no matter which party is doing it.

    I would hope that something else would emerge, but the US is ill-set up for more than two parties.

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    Yeah, this sounds like bull . The sort of insecure persecution complex that leads one to believe Democrats are "anti white" doesn't just happen overnight.
    It is a testimony to the effectiveness of right-wing propaganda networks (in the interconnected sense of the word).

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    I think right-wing propaganda has made some decent inroads with their strawman SJW attacks. It is effective, because it contains a tiny grain of truth in that there really are nutters on the left that are every bit as delusional as people who watch Fox "news" and vocal about it.

    Eventually, however, the constant cry of "wolf" will get old, and people do see it for what it is.
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    I should have mentioned he lives in California so experiences radical Left more than radical right. In comparison to say my co worker from Georgia who had to deal with the radical right over there.

    Yeah, this sounds like bull . The sort of insecure persecution complex that leads one to believe Democrats are "anti white" doesn't just happen overnight.
    I should have mentioned his father is a vocal "if you voted for Trump, you are a racist" type. Overall I think he is turned off by the increasing cries of racism (coming from the left).

    Do i think anti-White is a similar cry (from the right)? Ya. But ultimately my friend is White. Logically he will put one issue (effecting Whites) above the other issue (effecting people of color).

    Do you disagree that Democrats are anti-White? Meaning they are fighting the good fight and it just so happens to usually benefit non-Whites? Look I totally understand people of color that support such initiatives - makes total logic sense for themselves and loved ones. What I can't wrap my head around is Whites (without family members of color) that support it. They would be categorized as misinformed or ideological radicals.

    To seek to better yourself/family is normal. To seek to weaken yourself/family only exists in Western Whites.
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    It is a testimony to the effectiveness of right-wing propaganda networks (in the interconnected sense of the word).
    The Democrat politicians make the statements, is it propaganda to air it? When Republican politicians say "Hitler was right" and MSM airs it, i don't consider that propaganda

    Republicans are anti-POC
    Democrats are anti-White

    Simple stuff. My skin and my family is White so I choose accordingly.

    I estimate on our death beds, the White population in America will fall to 30%. So why dispute when you see long term that your party will win.

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    Do you disagree that Democrats are anti-White? Meaning they are fighting the good fight and it just so happens to usually benefit non-Whites?
    I disagree that policies benefitting minorities are, by definition, anti-white. That's like saying disability income is harmful to people who aren't disabled.

    Look I totally understand people of color that support such initiatives - makes total logic sense for themselves and loved ones. What I can't wrap my head around is Whites (without family members of color) that support it. They would be categorized as misinformed or ideological radicals.
    That's silly. Not everyone's worldview is defined by what specifically benefits themselves. Conservatives and Liberals alike are often motivated by issues that don't effect them personally. It's called empathy.

    To seek to better yourself/family is normal. To seek to weaken yourself/family only exists in Western Whites.
    This assumes that anything benefitting minorities necessarily weakens whites. I don't see how public assistance, opposition to voter ID laws, prison reform, questioning police brutality against minorities, etc. are platforms that weaken whites.

    It sounds like you're specifically focused on some conservative boogeyman version of quota-style affirmative action. As far as I can tell, that hasn't been something Democrats have been pushing hard for in decades, so not sure why your friend is just now concerned about it.
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    I should have mentioned he lives in California so experiences radical Left more than radical right. In comparison to say my co worker from Georgia who had to deal with the radical right over there.


    I should have mentioned his father is a vocal "if you voted for Trump, you are a racist" type. Overall I think he is turned off by the increasing cries of racism (coming from the left).

    Do i think anti-White is a similar cry (from the right)? Ya. But ultimately my friend is White. Logically he will put one issue (effecting Whites) above the other issue (effecting people of color).

    Do you disagree that Democrats are anti-White? Meaning they are fighting the good fight and it just so happens to usually benefit non-Whites? Look I totally understand people of color that support such initiatives - makes total logic sense for themselves and loved ones. What I can't wrap my head around is Whites (without family members of color) that support it. They would be categorized as misinformed or ideological radicals.

    To seek to better yourself/family is normal. To seek to weaken yourself/family only exists in Western Whites.
    Depends on how one defines "anti-white". Generally no, Democrats are as a whole not "anti-white" in the sense that I have of that term.

    Extra Stout returns?

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    The Democrat politicians make the statements, is it propaganda to air it? When Republican politicians say "Hitler was right" and MSM airs it, i don't consider that propaganda

    Republicans are anti-POC
    Democrats are anti-White

    Simple stuff. My skin and my family is White so I choose accordingly.

    I estimate on our death beds, the White population in America will fall to 30%. So why dispute when you see long term that your party will win.
    SJW schtick is where the right-wing takes the most radical parts of the left and hold that up as typical of the entire left.

    It is either presented as a strawman "liberals believe" fallacy,

    or

    A "look at this stupid liberal saying this dumb thing, all liberal policies must be just as dumb" poisoning the well fallacy.


    Both forms of presentation of "liberal" beliefs are inherently dishonest, because they ignore the substance of left arguments.

    The right is really good at framing conversation, and do so in ways that leverage these failures in reasoning.

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    The Democrat politicians make the statements, is it propaganda to air it? When Republican politicians say "Hitler was right" and MSM airs it, i don't consider that propaganda

    Republicans are anti-POC
    Democrats are anti-White

    Simple stuff. My skin and my family is White so I choose accordingly.

    I estimate on our death beds, the White population in America will fall to 30%. So why dispute when you see long term that your party will win.
    Poor whitey.

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    Haha I wasn't born here and I have one foot out the door.

    My battle is keeping your kind out of my fatherland. If we never let you in then we won't have to "just deal with it" later

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    I disagree that policies benefitting minorities are, by definition, anti-white. That's like saying disability income is harmful to people who aren't disabled.



    That's silly. Not everyone's worldview is defined by what specifically benefits themselves. Conservatives and Liberals alike are often motivated by issues that don't effect them personally. It's called empathy.



    This assumes that anything benefitting minorities necessarily weakens whites. I don't see how public assistance, opposition to voter ID laws, prison reform, questioning police brutality against minorities, etc. are platforms that weaken whites.

    It sounds like you're specifically focused on some conservative boogeyman version of quota-style affirmative action. As far as I can tell, that hasn't been something Democrats have been pushing hard for in decades, so not sure why your friend is just now concerned about it.
    Good post Sperminator. I like you

    I think people get too caught up in good guys/bad guys when it really just comes down to how will you benefit me and my family. As the White population continues dropping - focus on (benefits) Whites will as well.

    My friend always said the right things up until even 6 months ago. "We are all equal" and "they are human too". I think recently he has started to focus on having a family. No more just free love and fun.

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    Haha I wasn't born here and I have one foot out the door.
    Promises, promises.

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    White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
    https://pjmedia.com/election/white-m...icks-up-steam/

    #walkaway
    Looks like the only one doing a walkaway is you from defending your OP.

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    One of Snakeboi's finest work.

    Triggering det libs!

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    Still nothing on this.

    It's almost as if it were... fake.

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    Still nothing on this.

    It's almost as if it were... fake.
    Waiting on CNN to spoon feed it to you?

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    Waiting on CNN to spoon feed it to you?
    He's not the one who needs to explain himself. Snakeboi has hit and run his own thread.

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    Waiting on CNN to spoon feed it to you?
    Still waiting for actual evidence of any trend beyond scattered anecdotes and stock photos.

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    White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
    https://pjmedia.com/election/white-m...icks-up-steam/

    #walkaway
    Still no follow up?

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    White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
    https://pjmedia.com/election/white-m...icks-up-steam/

    #walkaway

    Why I’m Leaving the Republican Party
    The Kavanaugh confirmation fight revealed the GOP to be the party of situational ethics and moral relativism in the name of winning at all costs.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-party/572419/

    Unlike the stock photos with faked quotes, this is a real person.

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    There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left. Journalists are routinely called out for it. One must ask why they feel so safe being racist in public. So yes it would make logical sense to not be a leftist tbh.

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    There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left. Journalists are routinely called out for it. One must ask why they feel so safe being racist in public. So yes it would make logical sense to not be a leftist tbh.
    lol white people

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    There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left.
    That is what the right-wing propagandists want you to believe and go out and claim in places like this.

    They want you to go for the whataboutism, because it keeps you outraged, scared, and not really thinking.

    So, let's try thinking about that claim.

    What are underlying assumptions? i.e. what has to be true for this claim to be true?

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    Why I’m Leaving the Republican Party
    The Kavanaugh confirmation fight revealed the GOP to be the party of situational ethics and moral relativism in the name of winning at all costs.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-party/572419/

    Unlike the stock photos with faked quotes, this is a real person.
    Farewell Tom who wasn’t a white millennial, got to make room for all the women who saw the smear attempt for what is was.


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