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    paul hasn't even shown he belongs on an NBA court let alone be a starting point guard
    We are at a point where we could legitimately start talking about Cliff Paul...

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    Unbelievable😓

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    This season will be so hard to watch now.

    I am not looking forward to a team struggling for .500 while having to watch 32+ minutes of Mills and 30+ minutes of Forbes and 30+ minutes of Marco.

    Watching Murray develop would have been entertaining. Same for Walker. Same for White.

    But seeing the zero penetration, zero pick and roll, zero defense Mills and Forbes show ... Don't think I even care enough to watch 82 games of that mess.

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    This season will be so hard to watch now.

    I am not looking forward to a team struggling for .500 while having to watch 32+ minutes of Mills and 30+ minutes of Forbes and 30+ minutes of Marco.

    Watching Murray develop would have been entertaining. Same for Walker. Same for White.

    But seeing the zero penetration, zero pick and roll, zero defense Mills and Forbes show ... Don't think I even care enough to watch 82 games of that mess.
    White and Walker will be back in December.

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    Thank God SA didn’t do that. SA has LMA/DeRozan and other win now pieces that they can flip to contenders for assets.
    win what now, exactly?

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    I read it is a plantar fascia tear. From what I have seen players have to deal with it almost all season. Can anyone confirm that even if he is back that he will be limited (in pain) for months after?
    It limited Antonio Gates for 2 seasons

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    White and Walker will be back in December.
    I'm not counting on White. They've already changed the timetable to 'indefinite'

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    What kind of shoes are the Spurs wearing these days?

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    I'm not counting on White. They've already changed the timetable to 'indefinite'
    plantar tear certainly doesn't sound like "8 weeks"

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    Good Christ.

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    [QUOTE=SpursDynasty85;9559662]I read it is a plantar fascia tear. From what I have seen players have to deal with it almost all season. Can anyone confirm tI

    I am an active 66 year old man and had it in both heels caused by wearing those worthless Croc shoes. I chose not to get a cortisone shot due to the fact I had already had several recently for another ailment. You can do stretches, sleep with a splint and rest to help healing. One side went away on its own in about two months but the other heel lingered for a year. It sucks. The other day I went to the doctor for a severe sinus infection and they gave me a steroid commonly prescribed for arthritis and inflamation. The other heel pain has now almost totally dissappeared. I do not know if this is temporary or not. This ailment is painful and has a life and mind of its own. It is the tears in the plantar fascia that causes the inflamation. Hope he is a quick healer.
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    correct me if i'm wrong but my impression is that non contact injuries are... just waiting to happen? as in they're ticking time bombs?

    could any blame be placed on the training/medical staff or would these injuries have happened regardless of a different conditioning regimen, etc.?

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    White never had any particular foot issues, has he? Healthy all through college, his issues last year were with his wrist. I don't remember what he had in summer league, a groin or hamstring issue?

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    I was all in for trading Leonard and Aldridge for picks and/or young players....

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    correct me if i'm wrong but my impression is that non contact injuries are... just waiting to happen? as in they're ticking time bombs?

    could any blame be placed on the training/medical staff or would these injuries have happened regardless of a different conditioning regimen, etc.?
    Conditioning has a lot to do. I remember Suns's trainer Aaron Nelson talking about these type of non-contac injuries and how conditioning could prevent them, their revolutionary system to evaluate when a muscle is thigh or weak, how it affects tendons...

    I also remember how Nash changed team, left Suns' staff and couldn't play anymore.

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    White never had any particular foot issues, has he? Healthy all through college, his issues last year were with his wrist. I don't remember what he had in summer league, a groin or hamstring issue?
    Just looked it up. He had a hamstring injury in the summer.
    http://www.buffzone.com/ci_32011889/...tch-nba-summer

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    Conditioning has a lot to do. I remember Suns's trainer Aaron Nelson talking about these type of non-contac injuries and how conditioning could prevent them, the system to evaluate when a muscle is thigh or weak, how it affects tendons...

    I also remember how Nash changed team, left Suns' staff and couldn't play anymore.
    he was 39 when he couldn't play anymore.

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    he was 39 when he couldn't play anymore.
    Just a year before he was playing +30mpg for the Suns, averaging +10apg and almost 50-40-90 shooting.

    But if you want to deny Suns' staff/Aaron Nelson were ELITE, better than anyone, they even receveid awards for best trainer of the year...I can't help.

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    And he played with Back Door Kooby who never gave up the ball.

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    Good Lord! Maybe what Spurs need more then anything right now is new trainers...

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    Just a year before he was playing +30mpg for the Suns, averaging +10apg and almost 50-40-90 shooting.
    He missed a quarter of that season.

    Dude was getting old. It happens.

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    You guys think that the Spurs staff of trainers and docs don't do preemptive conditioning? They are leaders in the world at it. You can do everything right, and just happens. The way they evaluate, rehab, and treat the players is what makes them stand apart. There is a reason Dr Schmidt is the president of the NBA physicians association. Just because one completely ignorant mute with no huevos didn't follow their protocol, people are questioning the staff? One more time, Leonard is completely at fault. He would not rehab with the Spurs protocol, electing to have his team develop one. Then, when it wasn't healing fast enough, he looked for blame. The Spurs saw that, his teammates saw that. And quite honestly, he could have played. Just like he could have played with a low grade ankle sprain against the Warriors. If anyone thinks that Lebron, or Kobe, or Timmy wouldn't have even rentered that game, much less return in the series, they are oblivious. Leonard laid down. Now people are just plain talking crazy. Let's don't forget Kawhi broke his finger a few years ago and the Spurs team handled that surgically. And Manus hand. And Timmys knee. Twice. And Robinsons foot. Bertans ACL. And on and on. All the medical staff talk comes from one guy. That doesn't seem strange to anyone questioning? Walker will be fine in month. White will be managed and return in possibly a month and a half. And Murray will be ready to go next year. Kawhi will always be the guy that quit on the zspurs.

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    Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...
    No we didn’t. LAs offer was Kuzma/Hart.

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    No we didn’t. LAs offer was Kuzma/Hart.
    Today's Laker trolls....

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    He missed a quarter of that season.

    Dude was getting old. It happens.
    In his last year with the Suns, he missed 20 games and most of them were really rest. Because Gentry isn't D'Antoni, he believes in resting vets.

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