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    I don't get people that complain about "free healthcare" (aka paid with tax dollars) when we technically already have "free healthcare" (aka paid with tax dollars).

    Why is it a human right? Well, ask Reagan, who came up with that after hospitals were literally paying to dump sick patients out. Ron Paul basically tried to argue he would go back to that and that was pretty much the end of his presidential run.

    It's not going away, so the discussion should really center on how to make it more effective and especially less costly.

    For starters, an insurance system that only covers the relatively healthy pool of people while it dumps the risky ones to the taxpayers hasn't been a solution to the problem.

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    Why is affordable healthcare a basic human right?
    Why is unaffordable healthcare acceptable in a 1st world country?

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    In grade school it's common for boys to pick on classmates that they have crushes on, because they don't know how else to get their attention. Some people don't grow out of that phase because they fail to develop normal social skills.
    lol wtf

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    I heard on the biz news today that Trump is going to require drug companies to disclose the price of their drugs as part of their television ads. I think thats hilarious. List the 550 side effects and by the way, it costs $100 a day to take it.

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    I heard on the biz news today that Trump is going to require drug companies to disclose the price of their drugs as part of their television ads. I think thats hilarious. List the 550 side effects and by the way, it costs $100 a day to take it.
    Thats a start. They should also include the cost of making it and their profit margin

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    I heard on the biz news today that Trump is going to require drug companies to disclose the price of their drugs as part of their television ads. I think thats hilarious. List the 550 side effects and by the way, it costs $100 a day to take it.
    Would be amazing if he follows through. Then again he has also in the past said Medicare should negotiate drug prices and that we should be able to import prescription drugs and he never followed through on either of those once elected so I'm not expecting much.

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    The law restricts access to medicine, restricts who can practice medicine, and restricts how one can practice medicine and heath care. Rightfully.

    As a compromise to these necessary guidelines, and because we can absolutely afford to do so, a developed nation should provide access to basic health care based on means. Restricting health care to only those who can afford it, especially with affordability being a byproduct of the legal requirements placed on medical providers, contradicts a basic human right to Life (if you believe such a right exists.)

    In practice, we already provide "health care for all" through ER's. Better public access to preventative health care would ideally reduce those visits and the associated expense.
    GODDAMN, you're stupid in your sadism.

    "a developed nation should provide access to basic health care based on means."

    no, even the so-called stunted middle class in America can't even pay medical insurance, never mind medical bills, and ERs are not universal health care.

    For-profit, extorting Capitalistic America has placed health care out of reach of the vast majority of people

    Humane social democracies figured out many decades ago how to provide medical care for all citizens, not just the employed, not just the wealthy

    GODDAMN, you're SADISTICALLY stupid in your "should" bull .

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    guy from daily wire says republican is better than democrat

    stop the presses!

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    derp-picks-on-reck-because-he-has-a-mancrush.jpg

    Does that work better for you, bot?

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    GODDAMN, you're stupid in your sadism.

    "a developed nation should provide access to basic health care based on means."

    no, even the so-called stunted middle class in America can't even pay medical insurance, never mind medical bills, and ERs are not universal health care.

    For-profit, extorting Capitalistic America has placed health care out of reach of the vast majority of people

    Humane social democracies figured out many decades ago how to provide medical care for all citizens, not just the employed, not just the wealthy

    GODDAMN, you're SADISTICALLY stupid in your "should" bull .
    You are clearly out of your element. You should channel that rage into efforts to improve your reading level, you hopeless moron.

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    GODDAMN, you're stupid in your sadism.

    "a developed nation should provide access to basic health care based on means."

    no, even the so-called stunted middle class in America can't even pay medical insurance, never mind medical bills, and ERs are not universal health care.

    For-profit, extorting Capitalistic America has placed health care out of reach of the vast majority of people

    Humane social democracies figured out many decades ago how to provide medical care for all citizens, not just the employed, not just the wealthy

    GODDAMN, you're SADISTICALLY stupid in your "should" bull .
    ^

    Now this rant, this is a rant from a guy who oozes love for humanity.

    Wow...

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    Since I shamed him out of his mention function abuse he's resorted to bumping months and years-old threads to cry out for he man crushes.
    The guy is on a hardcore Reck obsession ever since I stopped responding to his posts. There have been like 4 different names dedicated to me in hopes I reply to them. Lol

    Not sure he knows what alts means.

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    The guy is on a hardcore Reck obsession ever since I stopped responding to his posts. There have been like 4 different names dedicated to me in hopes I reply to them. Lol

    Not sure he knows what alts means.
    Tranny strong.

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    Since I shamed him out of his mention function abuse he's resorted to bumping months and years-old threads to cry out for he man crushes.
    "shamed"
    Sociopath doing sociopath things.

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    "shamed"
    Sociopath doing sociopath things.
    A sociopath has a list of made up enemies.

    A sociopath creates different alts to "get" his enemies and prop his low self esteem up on a message board.

    A sociopath stalks his "enemies".

    You tick all these boxes. Pav might be a jabrone with nothing exciting to do with his time, but he's not a sociopath. You are a sicko who stalks men on a message board with multiple accounts. You're seriously one twisted pup heavy with sociopathic behaviors. Congrats, weirdo.

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    More of that "troll thing".

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    A sociopath has a list of made up enemies.

    A sociopath creates different alts to "get" his enemies and prop his low self esteem up on a message board.

    A sociopath stalks his "enemies".

    You tick all these boxes. Pav might be a jabrone with nothing exciting to do with his time, but he's not a sociopath. You are a sicko who stalks men on a message board with multiple accounts. You're seriously one twisted pup heavy with sociopathic behaviors. Congrats, weirdo.
    Next time, do some research, Crusty. Your spiel is filed under 'sounds good (to an idiot)'

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    Next time, do some research, Crusty. Your spiel is filed under 'sounds good (to an idiot)'
    LOL. Your grasp on what a sociopath is akin to dabom's grasp on genocide.

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    "Master of Words", Derp.

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    You made assumptions of what a sociopath is w/o looking it up. It was obvious.

    Crusty

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    You made assumptions of what a sociopath is w/o looking it up. It was obvious.

    Crusty
    You think the guy being stalked on a message board by the person with the extensive history of using simple terms incorrectly is the sociopath.

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    You think the guy being stalked on a message board by the person with the extensive history of using simple terms incorrectly is the sociopath.
    "stalker" and sociopath are synonymous terms apparently.
    Crusty - blake-level poster.

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    "stalker" and sociopath are synonymous terms apparently.
    Crusty - blake-level poster.
    You're a sociopath because you have a severe antisocial disorder, are the only person confident in your intelligence but think you're the smartest in the room but struggles with basic vocabulary and you cant quit your targets of desire. You're the ST John Hinkley and the " Chumpettes" are your Jodi Fosters. You're simple and obvious with your sociopathy.

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    You're a sociopath because you have a severe antisocial disorder, are the only person confident in your intelligence but think you're the smartest in the room but struggles with basic vocabulary and you cant quit your targets of desire. You're the ST John Hinkley and the " Chumpettes" are your Jodi Fosters. You're simple and obvious with your sociopathy.
    Crusty just spouting whatever jibberish he can.
    Tripling down on your made-up definition(s) of sociopath.

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