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    the stuff about Bush and Reagan being dumb was just as moronic.
    They are all leaders.
    They all can motivate people around them by whatever means. That is not considered smart by many people. I would call this ability a considerably valuable kind of smart as well as dangerous skill. What Orange guy has made clear to me is how fear motivates and captivates people who can be easily persuaded into “the real problem”.

    Imo it’s hit a base belief/fear that white People might become less influential. To a lesser extent white males might become less influential, which is really bad, because only they can run a country or company.

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    "When you were asked, what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said 'Russia.' Not Al-Qaeda; you said Russia. And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because, the Cold War's been over for 20 years." --Barry Obama mocking Mitt Romney
    He was right. Black president cares more about the US than you ever did or will.

    lol poor Darrin

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    None of them are savvy.

    Shillary was savvy enough to have Perkins Coie do her dirty work.
    What's your conspiracy theory, Darrin?

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    well, I disagree.

    you don't get elected president of the USA if you're not a pretty sharp cookie.
    I would add that one can be leadership smart and still be a narcissistic, impulsive prick.

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    Imo you are going to be very severely disappointed with your wishes.


    You are one paranoid dude if you think Putin made a difference in exactly the right states in what was already, a very close presidential election. Mainly because the country was basically divided in half already. THIS IS THE LESSON YOU CANT GET. But you don’t care to have a look into why so many supposedly rational independents went for Trump. Because it might yield possible answers you can’t possibly comprehend because of your zealous dogma. You are as bad as the most close minded red team members on this board.

    You remind me of a person that never gets anything done because you gripe about any task. No solutions, complaining is easier. Congrats on your role as ammunition for team red.

    Tell me I’m wrong. Tell me you ask what you can do for the country to make it better. At least Random Guy and rmt actually do something. Do you volunteer in the community? Help kids with desire and with less than desirable socioeconomic situations? How blue are you...

    You are the worst spokesperson team blue could possibly have.

    You have either completely cherry picked your info, ignored the evidence - or are making up - not sure which.


    There has been PUBLIC evidence - that the Trump campaign was working hand in hand with the Russians, with Cambridge Analytica and other conspirators.
    There have been indictments which spelled out the campaign from the Russian side - and Mueller's next move will be to tie the Americans they were conspiring with and indict them as well.

    There was a public report that showed how the Russians - in their felony theft of the Clinton campaign - with coordination of the Trump campaign - stole and delivered the CLINTON CAMPAIGN STRATEGY - to the Trump campaign traitors and then coordinated their plans to assist Trump to win the election.

    Think of that -

    You are going into a match and someone steals all your opponents plays and gifts them to you BEFORE THE GAME! At the same time - they are releasing harmful info and/or propaganda/lies about your opponent to the public, revealing key injuries, illnesses to your opponent, etc..


    The Russians delivered the CLINTON PLAYBOOK to Trump team. The 3 states that decided the electoral victory were decided by 70,000 votes or less. Trump and the Russians knew exactly what Clinton team would and would not do and used it to win - do you think the parroted phrase "Clinton didn't campaign in Wisconsin" was just a shrewd common sense Republican talking point (parroted in here by people partly programmed by Russian bots no less) or do you think it was part of the game plan?

    Add to that huge advantage - all the internet bots, the releasing of stolen emails WITHIN 30 MINUTES of the "GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY" tape and you begin to see just how much of an advantage Russia gave to Trump.

    Fast forward to two weeks before the inauguration; Trump is given a classified briefing by the USA intelligence reps- where he is shown classified evidence (without revealing to Trump - his own crimes that were being investigated - just the way you would deal with any suspect) showing the extent to which the evidence showed the Russians were the perpetrators in our country's attack on our Democracy. Trump was shown how an enemy attacked us and our election and was told Russia was absolutely the identified attacker.

    This is where a President shows who he is working for.

    Did he immediately vow to stop Russia? Retaliate? Protect the country? Confront Putin? Order an investigation? Publicly praise the FBI that it was good counterintelligence? Announce to the American people that he was on the job and would make sure this act did not go unpunished.
    Did he get to work for America?

    Or?

    Did he go to work for Russia/Putin?

    He attacked the FBI. He labeled the evidence - the classified evidence that our country was attacked - a witch hunt. He never confronted Putin. Not once. He said - it could be "Chy- nah" , it could be a 400 lb guy (TSA LOL) - he immediately discredited HIS OWN INTELLIGENCE agencies and HIS OWN COUNTRY.

    Publicly. In the open. He did not send a secret Nixon-type memo attacking secret enemies - nope.

    He publicly began a treasonous 20 month campaign where he took the side of the enemy attackers to our country. He publicly turned his back on his country and sided with the enemy.
    People like you accepted this. Were complicit in this treachery and to this day all over Amerikkka - the defense of this traitor continues.

    Shameful. History will not be kind.

    I cannot see how any reasonable person comes to the conclusion that Russia/Trump conspiring together - did NOT sway the election. It seems like just pure brainwashing that you refuse to see the evidence.

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    Russians gotta pay those bribes in some form or fashion - money doesn't just tracelessly appear in Trumps' coffers;


    https://investigaterussia.org/media/...-s -company

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    Yeah, no way Spurs Homer is djohn. There's no way djohn can remember all the talking points he's trained to know, let alone regurgitate them in his own words.

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    Not sure you can say the same of his daughter, his son, his son in law and various campaign figures.
    his mafiya are guilty but Trash alone is innocent

    why is Trash etc lying, obstructing Mueller?

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    Yeah, no way Spurs Homer is djohn. There's no way djohn can remember all the talking points he's trained to know, let alone regurgitate them in his own words.
    last time i remember djohn running an alt it was the Michael Jordan account right when Dwight Howard left the lakers

    was mostly smileys and gifs tbh

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    Pootin STILL warring against USA

    Justice Dept. charges Russian woman with interference in midterm elections

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/director-of-national-intelligence-warns-of-ongoing-campaigns-to-interfere-with-elections/2018/10/19/64973a7a-d3b4-11e8-b2d2-f397227b43f0_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f6 3096e79bad

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    his mafiya are guilty but Trash alone is innocent

    why is Trash etc lying, obstructing Mueller?
    Trump is anything but innocent, but it's very doubtful Mueller will charge him with any crime.

    It'll be up to the US Congress to impeach and remove. Unless the Dems win both houses in the midterm or after DJT's re-election, there's close to zero chance DJT will be removed.

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    I would add that one can be leadership smart and still be a narcissistic, impulsive prick.
    Absolutely, those are some of his key leadership qualities.

    Trump is not smart in the ordinary academic sense, but he has cunning and guile in spades. He's got everyone fixated on whatever he said today.

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    rapid cycling of bs, filling the information space with chaos and garbage are part of his craft.

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    Yeah, no way Spurs Homer is djohn. There's no way djohn can remember all the talking points he's trained to know, let alone regurgitate them in his own words.
    I'm not Djohn

    You are not DMC.


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    You have either completely cherry picked your info, ignored the evidence - or are making up - not sure which.


    There has been PUBLIC evidence - that the Trump campaign was working hand in hand with the Russians, with Cambridge Analytica and other conspirators.
    There have been indictments which spelled out the campaign from the Russian side - and Mueller's next move will be to tie the Americans they were conspiring with and indict them as well.

    There was a public report that showed how the Russians - in their felony theft of the Clinton campaign - with coordination of the Trump campaign - stole and delivered the CLINTON CAMPAIGN STRATEGY - to the Trump campaign traitors and then coordinated their plans to assist Trump to win the election.

    Think of that -

    You are going into a match and someone steals all your opponents plays and gifts them to you BEFORE THE GAME! At the same time - they are releasing harmful info and/or propaganda/lies about your opponent to the public, revealing key injuries, illnesses to your opponent, etc..


    The Russians delivered the CLINTON PLAYBOOK to Trump team. The 3 states that decided the electoral victory were decided by 70,000 votes or less. Trump and the Russians knew exactly what Clinton team would and would not do and used it to win - do you think the parroted phrase "Clinton didn't campaign in Wisconsin" was just a shrewd common sense Republican talking point (parroted in here by people partly programmed by Russian bots no less) or do you think it was part of the game plan?

    Add to that huge advantage - all the internet bots, the releasing of stolen emails WITHIN 30 MINUTES of the "GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY" tape and you begin to see just how much of an advantage Russia gave to Trump.

    Fast forward to two weeks before the inauguration; Trump is given a classified briefing by the USA intelligence reps- where he is shown classified evidence (without revealing to Trump - his own crimes that were being investigated - just the way you would deal with any suspect) showing the extent to which the evidence showed the Russians were the perpetrators in our country's attack on our Democracy. Trump was shown how an enemy attacked us and our election and was told Russia was absolutely the identified attacker.

    This is where a President shows who he is working for.

    Did he immediately vow to stop Russia? Retaliate? Protect the country? Confront Putin? Order an investigation? Publicly praise the FBI that it was good counterintelligence? Announce to the American people that he was on the job and would make sure this act did not go unpunished.
    Did he get to work for America?

    Or?

    Did he go to work for Russia/Putin?

    He attacked the FBI. He labeled the evidence - the classified evidence that our country was attacked - a witch hunt. He never confronted Putin. Not once. He said - it could be "Chy- nah" , it could be a 400 lb guy (TSA LOL) - he immediately discredited HIS OWN INTELLIGENCE agencies and HIS OWN COUNTRY.

    Publicly. In the open. He did not send a secret Nixon-type memo attacking secret enemies - nope.

    He publicly began a treasonous 20 month campaign where he took the side of the enemy attackers to our country. He publicly turned his back on his country and sided with the enemy.
    People like you accepted this. Were complicit in this treachery and to this day all over Amerikkka - the defense of this traitor continues.

    Shameful. History will not be kind.

    I cannot see how any reasonable person comes to the conclusion that Russia/Trump conspiring together - did NOT sway the election. It seems like just pure brainwashing that you refuse to see the evidence.
    What a bunch of BS.
    And that not factual BS is horribly interpreted BS

    I’ll just take one piece of idiocy at a time.

    Hillary squeaked by in

    Maine
    New Mexico
    New Hampshire
    Minnesota
    Nevada

    Virginia would have been clearly been lost if she did not pick the correct running mate.

    This would have been a real electoral college thumping while losing the popular vote.
    How come Trump and the Russians let these States slip from their grasp? This could have made it an even more overwhelming victory that you would not even question? How could they mess this up so badly? Since it was such a dandy well planned effort...

    Crock of horse . Our country was divided in half basically. Your half lost, deal with it. You think because of thebRussians and Trump colluding they were able to split up America so evenly. Horse . Hillary was an exceptionally poor candidate that came along at the right time for Republicans. And it’s damn clear the fervor for her was not near as notable as for Trump.

    I held my nostrils together and voted for her because I knew what a royal horses ass Trump was/is. I think my vote was a very common vote in her favor. The ass grabbing crap taped and he still won, let that sink in. He still won.

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    I can keep going and rip almost everything you have posted to shreds.

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    ^ nah Trump won

    lol at "country is divided" and "half lost"

    Pure bs

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    ^ nah Trump won

    lol at "country is divided" and "half lost"

    Pure bs
    You are a bigger idiot than Spurs Homer.
    Trump got soundly beat in the popular vote. That is telling.
    Hillary could have been your president. It was basically that close.
    You keep thinking that Trump won by a landslide like the idiot you are.

    Are you telling well over 50 % Of our country is behind our current president for brains?

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    Darrin is completely against transparency now that Black President is out of office.

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    Darrin is completely against transparency now that Black President is out of office.
    Wow, you read that in two minutes? Impressive

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    Wow, you read that in two minutes? Impressive
    It's not a long column, Darrin.

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    Not sure why you need politico to lean on, this point has been made repeatedly.

    How hard is it to use your own words?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 10-19-2018 at 04:12 PM.

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    What a bunch of BS.
    And that not factual BS is horribly interpreted BS

    I’ll just take one piece of idiocy at a time.

    Hillary squeaked by in

    Maine
    New Mexico
    New Hampshire
    Minnesota
    Nevada

    Virginia would have been clearly been lost if she did not pick the correct running mate.

    This would have been a real electoral college thumping while losing the popular vote.
    How come Trump and the Russians let these States slip from their grasp? This could have made it an even more overwhelming victory that you would not even question? How could they mess this up so badly? Since it was such a dandy well planned effort...

    Crock of horse . Our country was divided in half basically. Your half lost, deal with it. You think because of thebRussians and Trump colluding they were able to split up America so evenly. Horse . Hillary was an exceptionally poor candidate that came along at the right time for Republicans. And it’s damn clear the fervor for her was not near as notable as for Trump.

    I held my nostrils together and voted for her because I knew what a royal horses ass Trump was/is. I think my vote was a very common vote in her favor. The ass grabbing crap taped and he still won, let that sink in. He still won.
    YOU

    made this about Hillary. I explained how Russia got Trump past the finish line - horrible compe ion or not.
    Hillary - but Trump still needed and used Russia’s help.

    Only people who refuse to leave Hillary in the rear view mirror - are Trump s.

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    Not sure why you need politico to lean on, this point has been made repeatedly.

    How hard is it to use your own words?
    I’m sure politico has sources that I don’t. <— these are my words

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