I don't know whose ratings of Green's defense you've been reading but that recovery block of his against Curry mid-chuck would be the zenith of any defensive specialist's resume in this modern, chuck-happy nba. Can you name any other player who has stuffed a Curry 3 as textbook clean as Green did? the best I could do in pick-up games is occasionally plant a fingertip on a released ball. Green's feat needed extensive scouting, exquisite timing and cat-like reflexes. He probably counterfaked Curry into thinking he fell for the first fake when he wasn't completely off-balanced as he first appeared, so add IQ to that. See, the fact that we are not even sure what fundamentals went into that block means there's not enough words said and written about said block, so by definition it's underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C27yHs3FJ0k
danny averaged 1 block per game and 1 steal per game over a season for us. he's gonna do it again on the raptors. he's a legit defender. his offense sucked but that's to be expected from a role player. he needed a real point guard playing next to him, not the corpse of tony parker.
There's also the hustle stat where the player Green or Leonard is guarding is denied the ball altogether by that player's own teammates. It's a negative space kind of stat so no one remembers it enough to use in conversation, but for me, ball denial is really the bread-and-butter of a chip-caliber defender.
Because he was toxic. His group hid him from spurs staff. Also, he wasn't meeting with Pop and co for weeks. But contract obligations make it mandatory that the player must participate in the exit interview. Prior to that, I think Burford and Co thought they could repair the relationship. But after that 'interview', the Spurs opened up for trades. The way he is playing, it's obvious he did not have a season-ending injury.
Still should have kept him and commend him at least play out his contract, what will be will be...
Danny and Kawhi anchored the Spurs elite defense for several years. It's not like they've declined in that department.
Now with Ibaka (apparently back to old form) and many young talents (Siakam, Anunoby) this team has the best defense in the league. Looking forward to see how they play against the Warriors.
This unfortunately is the Spurs team that we all wished for after the big three retired. It just happened to go to another team!!!
Amen. For all the vanilla posters reacting to harsh criticism of some PATFO moves and non-moves post-2014 and then post-Duncan, for all the posters thinking that whatever was the status quo was always the best possible position the Spurs could be in, the realization of the slow decline from being up on the defending champs by 23 to treadmill status doesn't start hitting until we see the idealized contender based on 2014 principles take form on another franchise.
Well, I don't think its the 2014 team of the beautiful game . It's a team of long mobile defensive players.
move on..
gave up our perimeter defense
i was pissed the year when jax return to the team, and the spurs had a perimeter lineup with any 2 combinations he put on the floor was able to play some sort of defense for 48mins, (jax, kawhi, green, ginoboli) yet pop goes and trot out some bull likeup like having bonner or some kent taking the 4th perimeter players in the rotation minutes...
Spurs really didn't have much of a choice to be honest. From my understanding the Spur didn't have much of a choice. The only thing I am upset about is the deal they didn't make with Boston at the deadline last season, which was very close to happening, but the Spurs pulled back because Kawhi made it seem like he was willing to play with the again, but as we all know now he didn't.
Kawhi never really intended on playing with the Spurs again. The Spurs tried over and over again to patch things up, but Kawhi wouldn't cooperate.
The Spurs absolutely did not want to deal with the Lakers. They wanted him to go East, which is why their price was high when it came to trading him to the Lakers. The Clippers didn't really have anything of interest to the Spurs. I think they did okay with the trade for being forced into a trade.
It's only two games into the season and everyone is making a huge deal about Kawhi and Danny. Let the season play out. I'm not saying it wasn't a mistake to include Danny, but the Spurs really didn't have a lot of leverage.
Am i correct that op has also said "the [spurs] are in a desperate need to rebuild" and here is saying "why did we get rid of an unmotivated veteran role player"
So if i have op correct, we trade derozan, alrdidge and gay, keep 19 guards and hope the draft is good enough to fix the team structure?
It doesn't have to mention them. It just confirms that other teams knew Kyrie was available in June. The Spurs (who would only trade Aldridge for a star) were talking trade with Cleveland at the same time that Cleveland was initially trying to trade Irving.
I already answered why they took LMA off the block and why they gave up on an Irving trade by August.
What was Boston's rumoured trade deadline offer?
It was Tatum or Brown for sure if I'm not mistaken and someone else that would make up the salary. Not sure who plus a pick.
Guess is Brown, the SAC pick and filler. That's what was being rumored at the time. Dunno how I'd feel about that now. It would have required the Spurs to trade Aldridge, and maybe that could have gotten them a good young big. Then the SAC pick could have been really good for finishing off a Murray, Walker, Brown, (young big) core. But they wouldn't even have the ghost of a chance at a le in the next couple of years that they have now.
Danny was an unsung Spur..One of the best value for money players in the league. He thrived alongside Leonard and their combo was dreaded by even the Warriors for defensive tenacity and clutch play. Now these guys have taken their talents to Toronto through trade and you bet...They were bound to thrive. Losing Danny was the problem for me ..Kawhi's shenanigans aside..They could and should have insisted on getting at least Delonte Weight if not Anunoby along with Poeltl
Smart move if Raps make the Finals. Might help dismantle Golden State.
What was the better alternative? Assume the Spurs asked for as much as possible. People still dont understand how trades work and especially for big ones like these.
Now D Groin is good? he sucked for 5 years in a row, whattafackwroingwiththou?
I think everyone needs to calm down it's only the beginning of the season, plenty of time for Green to get bored again and Leonard to fake an injury. Was it a bad trade, absolutley, did we have much of a choice, no. Let's look forward not backward, and start tanking because Derozan is trash.
Agreed this is my mentality.
The raptors needed kawhi's ventriloquist, thus green was the trade.
Gasol instead of Green and I would have been much higher on the trade.
Green would've solved our defensive issues on the wing and made it much easier for the Spurs to have a good defense. Aldridge playing more at center with Poeltl, Gay and Bertans filling out the big rotation would have allowed for the Spurs to play more modern more often too
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