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    What they really should do is build a wall of old tires on the border and set it on fire and keep it burning forever like the one in Springfield. Farrrrrr more effective than a stupid, scalable wall.

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    the destruction zones you refer to would have most of the population and productive power of the country and all of the major seaports except for New Orleans and Houston.

    are you sure you've thought this through?
    I've thought about seaports tbh. We'd need a deal to have access. But yes I've thought about it.

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    Sure there would be challenges. I've thought of that particular one already which could have many solutions. There are obviously many challenges I haven't even considered. Because I haven't thought of a very exhaustive list. That being said I like the upside of a split. The country is becoming extremely polarized. Remaining United doesn't make long term sense.

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    you don't think par ion of the USA is too high a price to pay for your personal policy preferences?

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    Disunion Nathan.

    We survived open borders until the 1890s. Had very little border enforcement per se until the 1940s and 1950s.

    One might say that open borders policy is more distinctively American than not.
    false

    the wealthy shut down immigration in early '20s.

    the Tenement museum/Brooklyn and Ellis Island Museum are eye openers. (close-minded rightwing assholes, don't bother)

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    Most the anchor babies will eventually vote for the free party.
    Why did you support Bernie Sanders?

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    got republicans always wanna pretend they're prolife but like this proves otherwise

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    false

    the wealthy shut down immigration in early '20s.

    the Tenement museum/Brooklyn and Ellis Island Museum are eye openers. (close-minded rightwing assholes, don't bother)
    sure, man. my post wasn't meant to be comprehensive, just a quick and dirty back of the napkin sketch.

    it is true that the northern and southern borders of the US have been lightly policed -- if at all -- for most of our history.

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    got republicans always wanna pretend they're prolife but like this proves otherwise
    "Open borders now! Or you don't care about people."

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    This is about feelings not facts

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    And what's so bad about immigration, while you're at it?
    Have you seen how brown these people are??

    not sure if serious there winehole

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    False racist narrative.

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    False racist narrative.
    Not for Derp and Frostking.

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    Have you seen how brown these people are??

    not sure if serious there winehole
    I get that concern trolling about immigration is a stalking horse for racism.

    I just wanted to give Nathan89 a chance to explain it some other way. He seems content to presume immigration is exclusively a social ill without any explanation at all.

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    these americans are such pussies

    we are being invaded by women and children. Everyone run!

    Pussiest nation in history possibly

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    I would
    off the top of my head, create a program;

    1)You seek asylum
    2) You get processed, background ck for crimes,gang affil,etc...
    3) You qualify, we put you to work. 10 yr contract 12-15 pr hr. We use this as a force to clean our country, perform the labor work for infrastructure, make america spit-shiny clean and new. New roads,bridges,etc.
    4) Percentage of your paycheck goes to your country of origin
    5) After 10 years - you must return to your country for at least -5-6 years and try to make your life better
    with your earned wages from here
    6) You can apply to stay here - but must first return to your country for a set time until papers approved or you succeed at home of origin.
    7) Only responsible birth control while you are here. If you can agree to BC for the 10 years you qualify.


    Im sure a lot of that can be proven to fail but off the top of my head I would much rather put these people to work to beautify the USA instead of demonizing people who are fleeing in terror for their lives.
    Smarter folks than I could think of a better program I'm sure.

    The problem will not disappear by jailing babies, building walls, etc

    It also will cause critics to immediately proclaim, "if you put them to work the entire world will come here!"

    I agree , this is why the idea of a 10 year contract and a date of return to their country and a program to deduct pay to send home but only if that portion is used as a plan for their return home.
    They will come regardless and will send earnings home regardless, I would just rather they contribute to their country so their country will appeal to them and they will long for and hopefully return there.
    Some will want to stay and at least they will be screened productive law abiding workers as MOST of them already are.
    This way racists will be able to sleep at night.

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    caravan you say? rpg that and ain't no one going to not take us seriously anymore. collateral damage would be their fault in the end and not ours. too bad, too sad.

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    lol triple negative

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    caravan you say? rpg that and ain't no one going to not take us seriously anymore. collateral damage would be their fault in the end and not ours. too bad, too sad.
    Awesome!
    why stop there?
    next- you can get rid of all brown people- texans,

    then old people
    sick people

    yay!

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    Why is it the responsibility of the US to deal with a horde of people in another country?

    Pro-life has nothing to do with immigration, everything to do with birth.

    So many false narratives and misguided talking points here that the real issue is almost impossible to discern.

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    Why is it the responsibility of the US to deal with a horde of people in another country?

    Pro-life has nothing to do with immigration, everything to do with birth.

    So many false narratives and misguided talking points here that the real issue is almost impossible to discern.
    Fox news/trump made it an issue when they announced this “invasion!”

    “help! Its brown killers charging the wall!”

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    Send your expendable income to Africa if you are desperate to help others. Flooding our country with illegals is unacceptable.

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    Fox news/trump made it an issue when they announced this “invasion!”

    “help! Its brown killers charging the wall!”
    So you watch Fox news now?

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