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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    The league is probably the most popular it has ever been, tbh, outside maybe the Dad killer days, but did they ruin the game in the process?

    Only one team didn't score 100+ pts tonight (Suns), and we even had a game finishing 140-136, without overtime. Are the rules so tilted that defense rarely matters anymore, tbh? Maybe it's too early, and it's just a fluke, but I don't remember the scores being so high in general in the first few days of the season, seemingly league-wide.

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    It is really sad. I dont like these high scores. Defense is becoming less important for sure. Its same thing as NFL but no legitimate safety issue in the NBA.

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    League rules brah.

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    Question is if with all of these other changes would the league feel comfortable bringing some rules in to make big men or at least inside play relevant again. I guess three are more exciting than long-twos and post-ups, but dunks are most exciting of all. Incentivizing drives and cuts makes more sense than making long shots more and more necessary.

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    All those elite scorers and PATFO are closing games with Fatty Mills and Dante Cunningham

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    I don't even understand how that new rule about not impeding movement can survive alongside screens, tbh... and screens have always given a huge tactical depth to the game...

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    It's kind of rough to watch.

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    I love it.

    Only thing I dont like is the extreme softness in calls. I think the league fails to understand that most contact is natural and for players to prevent themselves from natural contact to avoid fouls..its hard to watch sometimes.

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    The offensive rebound shot clock rule just put a nail on big man. Oh and it helped the two best teams in the NBA in the process.

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    NBA fogrot how to play defense

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    I thought about this earlier in the day about how in just about all of these games I have seen defense be non-existent due to the new rule changes. I feel today offense is king and defense doesn't really matter under these current rules.

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    it looked bad ... but if this is a home game you could switch the score probably

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    It is really sad. I dont like these high scores. Defense is becoming less important for sure. Its same thing as NFL but no legitimate safety issue in the NBA.
    Apparently you don't remember the 80's and 90's when the Nuggets were averaging almost 130 points a night.

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    Apparently you don't remember the 80's and 90's when the Nuggets were averaging almost 130 points a night.
    Yea. I started watching basketball around 95. By then it was a big mans game with scores in the 90s.

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    The game seems to get less and less strategic. The Warriors are just insanely good chuckers. And now you’ve got every team imitating their success. And the league loves it. Also the offensive rebounding rule kinda sucks if you ask me

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    Apparently you don't remember the 80's and 90's when the Nuggets were averaging almost 130 points a night.
    IIRC, lots of people thought the complete lack of defense in those games was an embarrassment back then, too.

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    Apparently you don't remember the 80's and 90's when the Nuggets were averaging almost 130 points a night.
    Different things. They didnt play defense in the 80s today the league wont allow them to play defense

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    I just attributed the higher scores to more shot attempts because of the new offensive rebound rule.

    What other new rules are there that are contributing to it?

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    I just attributed the higher scores to more shot attempts because of the new offensive rebound rule.

    What other new rules are there that are contributing to it?
    You can't grab players off ball. Well, they are enforcing it. But they are calling illegal screens tighter though. Still a strong emphasis on protecting shooters. So you can't hand check, can't hold them off ball, can't crowd their shooting.

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    Through two games, the SA Spurs are playing at the slowest pace in the league, at 96.00. That would rank around late teens to early 20s from 2015-2018. From 2012 to 2014 it would rank top 5. Any time before that it would rank #1 or 2 most years.

    The Spurs are one of only three teams playing under a pace of 100, and four points behind the second slowest(Suns at 99.25).

    Patfo thinking they were ahead of the curve by going back to the post up

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    And the PATFO fluffers here really thought we could outscore teams with 2s thanks to the all-world defense of Charity Case Forbes and Fatty Mills.

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    And the PATFO fluffers here really thought we could outscore teams with 2s thanks to the all-world defense of Charity Case Forbes and Fatty Mills.
    we don't have the personnel to outscore the majority of teams and we don't have the personnel to play top 5 defense to compensate that. We're ed. It just screams a mediocre, lottery bound team.

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    We don’t have personnel to outscore teams into the 120’s. Spurs need to walk it and keep it in the 90’s. Call it boring but that’s the only way Spurs have a chance. Spurs design to run was with Murray’s rebounding, big strides and athleticism (and because he can’t shoot). He’s not available and Forbes/Mills would be trampled by athletic big avalanche. Walk it, pound it low, make it a grind- ing-boring game where other teams would hate to play. GSG

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    Apparently you don't remember the 80's and 90's when the Nuggets were averaging almost 130 points a night.
    Cos they played fast, shot awesome, and took advantage of oxygen deprivation in the mile-high air; not because teams weren't playing defense or the rules were soft.

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    I watched the Heat vs Wizards game. It was the worst defensive game I have ever seen. There was absolutely no defense from either team. The entire game consisted of chucking long range bombs from 3-5FT from the 3pt line. I don't know how anyone can sit and say that this is entertaining to watch.

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