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Let's be honest, a lot of FO talent migrate to other teams in the league. So it isn't like the Spurs has a monopoly in smarts.
The best team today is GSW, who happened to become really good when Steve Kerr took over.
Then there's Utah, who basically have Quin Snyder (former Austin spurs coach). Did they not steal Golbert for under the Spurs?
What about OKC with Presti? The guy responsible for picking Parker and Ginobili. He went on a run to pick Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Stevens from draft picks.
Then you got all these other teams like Atlanta, Brooklyn, Philidelphia that have former spurs brass lording over lottery and international picks.
Then there's teams like Memphis and Detroit that make it a habit of raiding Spurs players.
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great point
Off the top of my head, things every smart person complianed about when they happened and, as expected, ended up hurting the Spurs:
-Tony Parker's extension.
-Patty Mills' extension.
-Gasol's extension.
-Not being able to get something better in a trade where you are giving up, arguably, the best player in the World.
Erase that last one. I can’t even believe you still haven’t gotten through your head that we didn’t have much leverage.
OP: I wonder how it would go over with you if someone called out all of your (perceived) mistakes in public.
Usual Drunkford bath water drinkers are going with the hindsight spin on here, I see
Everyone with a brain saw all of these things coming, you were just too busy inserting into your mouths and pumping up Fatty's corporate knowledge and locker room presence or pretending that the Gasol contract was a LOYALTY contract to a player that curved you for the Bulls and had only spent a season before the extension.
Many here knew guys like Milutinov, Livio, Fathead, Walker, and White were whiffs except for you re s.
I, as well as other knowledgeable posters, could see the Kawhi situation being unfolded years in advance thanks to the roster he had to carry to back-to-back 60+ win seasons only to get the credit taken away by craterface. Keep believing he was injured you gullible scrubs.
You are crazy if you think the Spurs couldn't have done better than what they did. I'm not saying much better, but little things that could have done a world of difference like trading away Patty or Gasol instead of Green, or getting Anunoby or Siakam instead of Poeltl.
And if Raptors didn't agree you just don't trade Kawhi and that's that. You talk to Kawhi and say: "You want to be traded and we want to make you happy, but currently we aren't getting any good offers. Go out there, remind everyone just how good you are and we will be able to trade you".
Last edited by DAF86; 10-22-2018 at 03:16 PM.
no one cares about the other teams
while i agree that PATFO have made mistakes, the biggest problem i have with posts like this....noone knows what they tried to do. Did they want to stand pat during such and such offseason, or did they try to swing trades and were unsuccessful? Did the pursue FAs X,Y, and Z and got rebuffed? even in hindsight, noone knows for sure.
The real question should be how many disasters have PATFO avoided by the grace of other teams?
Wanting to draft Valenciunas over Kawhi in 2011 is one....
Btw, this photo can't be real.
Masai fleecing RC was hilariously sad tbh.
Anybody that thinks that Toronto wouldn't have done the deal if the Spurs insisted on OG or Siakam....
The intelligent posters have been beating this drum since '15.
After receiving praise in spades post '14 (team didn't have a stereotypical superstar, so media decided they were it), they clearly started to believe their own hype and have long since fallen behind the times. Unfortunately, this organization is more than likely going to continue to lag behind the modern NBA until they retire.
Threads like this pop up every season.
Including championship seasons.
One in the past 10 years tbh
You're calling scoreboard because the Spurs didn't win 10 championships?
lol
A lot of these “points” are fan perception based.
OP on the money.
Every team makes mistakes. hindsight is one thing. Take the Sixers for example. They actively tanked and beat records for the worse team. They drafted 3 duds and were lucky enough that Embid didn't become Oden with so many injuries.
Also to note* Spurs avg draft pick in the last 20 years is like 28th or something. We also won all 5 les while not paying any luxury tax.
they made a mistake of not firing pop two years ago when his wife was so sick
becky>>>>>>>>>>pop
Chump getting owned as per
pop s up as often as the clintons
PATFO has been living off of Tim Duncan's greatness for 18 years and now they're getting schooled for the frauds that they are. It's all well and good when they can sit back, do nothing and watch greatness happen but it's another thing when greatness retires and you get exposed for not knowing how to do your job. The Spurs need an active GM who's willing to go out and get things done, not a guy who's more reclusive than Kawhi Leonard and a personal secretary to the head coach.
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