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    We came out of what could have been a total disaster (nothing for KaWhitter). DeMar DeRozan has been great so far and should only get better. He is better than KaWhitter offensively but, not in KaWhitter's class defensively. Had we not been forced to throw Danny in on the deal and had Dejounte not had the ACL blowout we'd be looking pretty damn good defensively. DG & DM would have covered up some of the other guys deficits on 'D'. LMA has been a beast in the paint/boards.

    Now the really good news is we could have possibly ended up with Jimmy Butler or Brandon Ingram. Thankfully neither of those two deals happened. We'd be holding Nursery school or Kindergarten classes daily. For the DD naysayers, bah humbug. You could have ended up with a of a lot less and even nada, zilch, zero, nothing

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    If the spurs win 50 games with derozan averaging 29 pts per game he should be in MVP conversation
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    looks like Demar is a playoffs bust, not a playoffs up-stepper
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    Come playoff time though Kawhi on offense >>>>>>> DeMar

    There is a pretty big gap between the two, and I'd 100% take Kawhi over DeMar in late game situations.


    I mean the stats speak for themselves in crunch time games:











    Those stats are skewed because that was only taking into account the 2015 playoffs and Raptors-Pacers series. Lowry was awful that series but actually played quite well against the Heat in the semi's and the Cavs in the conference finals. He finished the post-season shooting 40% from the field, 30% from 3, but was great defensively. His efficiency numbers were much higher against the Heat and Cavs.

    Derozan also played a bit better against Indiana and the Cavs, raising his field goal percentage to 40% but also shot only 15% from 3 and was awful defensively.

    Lowry actually shot quite well in the 2017 and 2018 playoffs while Derozan has always struggled.
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    Kawhi plays in the east doe. Shave off 30%
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    They are basically the same on offense..derozan a little bit better though...while kawhi Is way better on defense..
    nah
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    They are basically the same on offense..derozan a little bit better though...while kawhi Is way better on defense..
    no they are not the same on offense

    derozan is quite a few steps better than Kawhi. Kawhi relies a lot on the 3 and when it is not falling like righ now, he is pretty pedestrian offensively
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    Demar is a better facilitator and overall team player than Kawhitter, also a better scorer within the system instead of Kawhitter’s ISO offense which disrupts Spurs’ tempo and takes away the ball especially from LMA. But Kawhitter/Danny can flatout stop/slowdown a scorer like Lebron, Lilliard, etc. Dante was serviceable at Lakers game. It’s a tall order to ask Demar to guard the best perimeter while being the number one facilitator and top scorer of the team, and still have some left at the tank by 4th quarter. Tempo really has to go down to 90’s to make it doable
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    I'd rate Demar as a 9 offensively, Kawhi as a 7.5. Kawhi is awesome in iso-ball, and can put a team on his back and score some points, but he really isn't a playmaker and the offense goes a little stagnant around him.

    Defensively, though, you've got Kawhi as a 9 and Demar as a 4...maybe a 5. That's where the Spurs are going to suffer a bit.

    And Pop can't ask DeRozan to go 45 minutes. He was gassed last night.
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    If Kawhi was leading a Spurs team to 60+ wins in the West, he's going to dominate in the East.
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    a ball has only 1 side
    heard there’s a flat balls society now.
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    Demar has to shake that playoff fright off or these stats will all be pretty much useless. Is he just easy to game plan for in a series or does he just have the yips?

    Danny Green and Kawhi look good playing together again. Danny really looks like he is in stride and Kawhi looks like a slightly less explosive version of himself, but I think it's a combination of stamina and rust more than a long term issue. Green and Kawhi double blocking Tatums layup and Kawhi taking control of that game is something the Celtics will have no answer for and Kawhi and Green are going to eat those guards alive come this post-season.

    Demar has been great so far though, it all just comes down to showing up in the playoffs.
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    kawhi would get back to fg50% 3pt40% ft90% +25ppg +9rpg? and best record in the league or 1st in the easts? is going to win mvp...
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    a ball has only 1 side
    That's what my GF always says.
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    Let’s wait until the allstar break..
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    We came out of what could have been a total disaster (nothing for KaWhitter). DeMar DeRozan has been great so far and should only get better. He is better than KaWhitter offensively but, not in KaWhitter's class defensively. Had we not been forced to throw Danny in on the deal and had Dejounte not had the ACL blowout we'd be looking pretty damn good defensively. DG & DM would have covered up some of the other guys deficits on 'D'. LMA has been a beast in the paint/boards.

    Now the really good news is we could have possibly ended up with Jimmy Butler or Brandon Ingram. Thankfully neither of those two deals happened. We'd be holding Nursery school or Kindergarten classes daily. For the DD naysayers, bah humbug. You could have ended up with a of a lot less and even nada, zilch, zero, nothing

    Nah, spurs didn't have any leverage, remember... ? DD + Poetl + a pick ain't that bad honestly, Jak and the pick ultimately determinig the verdict.

    Time to have a thought for Magic and fakers fans who didn't want to trade their trash... sorry their "potential" for Kawhard.
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    no they are not the same on offense

    derozan is quite a few steps better than Kawhi. Kawhi relies a lot on the 3 and when it is not falling like righ now, he is pretty pedestrian offensively
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    Demar is a better facilitator and overall team player than Kawhitter, also a better scorer within the system instead of Kawhitter’s ISO offense which disrupts Spurs’ tempo and takes away the ball especially from LMA. But Kawhitter/Danny can flatout stop/slowdown a scorer like Lebron, Lilliard, etc. Dante was serviceable at Lakers game. It’s a tall order to ask Demar to guard the best perimeter while being the number one facilitator and top scorer of the team, and still have some left at the tank by 4th quarter. Tempo really has to go down to 90’s to make it doable
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    no they are not the same on offense

    derozan is quite a few steps better than Kawhi. Kawhi relies a lot on the 3 and when it is not falling like righ now, he is pretty pedestrian offensively
    I would like to live in a world where this is real.
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    I would like to live in a world where this is real.
    Welcome to the world brother
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    The ball doesn't have sides, it's round. Just ask Kyrie.
    It's has 2 sides, the inside and the outside. Lol.
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    I want to look at Nephew for an entire game - I am too annoyed to do that just yet because he was indeed gold bricking last year to get out (at least in the March - April 2018 time frame if not longer).

    I think the Raptors are asking a lot less from Nephew on defense. He isn't fighting through screens hard and he isn't poaching passing lanes like he did in SA (he is protecting his quads). Of course he doesn't have a Duncan available to back him up in Toronto either on defense so he may have to play more conservative.

    He will not be able to play 35 minutes a game and play the defensive end like he used to. Toronto does not have a super strong second option on offense. Nephew has to put up big numbers - I never really have liked Lowry as a second option that much with his chucking tendencies.

    Getting DD, big Austrian, and a #1 for Leonard and Green is OK given the actions taken by the group to destroy the trade value of Nephew. There is no doubt that Toronto will have a draft pick in the bottom ten so the Spurs will have an extra #1 next year to rebuild the roster with young guys. I am pretty sure the Spurs will have a lottery pick and perhaps a high one if something goes wrong again health wise. The extra #1 could be trade bait for a better pick if a particular player is available that they like.
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    I concur, you drunk bas
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    35 on 15-23 shooting tonight for Kawhi
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    Getting DD, big Austrian, and a #1 for Leonard and Green is OK given the actions taken by the group to destroy the trade value of Nephew. There is no doubt that Toronto will have a draft pick in the bottom ten so the Spurs will have an extra #1 next year to rebuild the roster with young guys. I am pretty sure the Spurs will have a lottery pick and perhaps a high one if something goes wrong again health wise. The extra #1 could be trade bait for a better pick if a particular player is available that they like.
    spurs got fleeced, look atthe raptors how many SF do they have that the spurs shouldve ask for...whether its empty stats on a east team, but still beats getting back poetl...
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