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    The media tells us that the caravan is entirely made up of smart, ethical, hard working people who just want a better life.

    If Central America only produces smart, ethical, hard working people, then why are they leaving Central America to come here?

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    The conventional media story is that this caravan is just fleeing systemic poverty and crime. So who thinks we should just let the caravan in?

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    The conventional media story is that this caravan is just fleeing systemic poverty and crime. So who thinks we should just let the caravan in?
    you left out political violence. you must not be too familiar with what's been going on in Honduras and Nicaragua.

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    The conventional media story is that this caravan is just fleeing systemic poverty and crime. So who thinks we should just let the caravan in?
    I dont think anybody says that

    the caravan just like the other caravans years before will walk up directly to the border entry and line up to apply for refugee status. From then on the US legal system would take over.

    Its not like anyone is going to open the door and let them pour in

    plase stop listening to Fox laura ingram and Trump obviously they want to get as many votes as possible this midterms

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    I dont think anybody says that

    the caravan just like the other caravans years before will walk up directly to the border entry and line up to apply for refugee status. From then on the US legal system would take over.

    Its not like anyone is going to open the door and let them pour in

    plase stop listening to Fox laura ingram and Trump obviously they want to get as many votes as possible this midterms
    They are overwhelmed and years behind. Call it what it is. Catch and release in the US.

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    you left out political violence. you must not be too familiar with what's been going on in Honduras and Nicaragua.
    There are roughly 15 million people in Honduras and Nicaragua that could claim the same thing. Should we let them all in?

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    gutless fear of people seeking a better life

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    Are you guys aware that these people could apply for asylum without walking to the border?

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    gutless fear of people seeking a better life
    So you are in favor of abolishing borders and letting anyone in that wants a "better life"?

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    Nope. Just in favor of an orderly system to deal with it.

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    Are you guys aware that these people could apply for asylum without walking to the border?
    there might be urgent reasons to physically leave the countries of origin and actually, you have no idea how many people in the caravan did seek help at US embassies.

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    There are roughly 15 million people in Honduras and Nicaragua that could claim the same thing. Should we let them all in?
    if you're really concerned about illegal immigration, you should pay more attention to people who come here on planes with valid visas, than the swarthy horde slowly moving in this direction.

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    Nope. Just in favor of an orderly system to deal with it.
    I am too, but this mob isn't it. I'm all for background checks, green cards, and a path to citizenship for the good ones along with mandatory employer e-verify. No do ents, no work.

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    it is one hundred percent legal under US law to present yourself at any border or any US embassy to ask for asylum, no matter how you entered the country.

    if you don't like it you should ask Trump and the majority Republican US Congress to change the law.

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    one wonders why they haven't already.

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    it is one hundred percent legal under US law to present yourself at any border or any US embassy to ask for asylum, no matter how you entered the country.

    if you don't like it you should ask Trump and the majority Republican US Congress to change the law.
    They need the house and 60 in the Senate to get anything done. Trumps offer a few months ago was a good start and the Democrats on it because it included increased border security.

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    too bad Trump couldn't get the job done, but go ahead, blame the Dems for his failures

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    Plus, "wanting a better economic life" is not a valid asylum issue.

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    gutless fear of people seeking a better life
    We should open the borders to the billions of others that want to "seek a better life" while we are at it.

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    too bad Trump couldn't get the job done, but go ahead, blame the Dems for his failures
    It's too valuable as a democratic football to ever resolve it.

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    Plus, "wanting a better economic life" is not a valid asylum issue.
    the applicants get to speak for themselves, and US officials decide whether what they say is believable.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 10-24-2018 at 10:29 AM.

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    This is such great television for conservatives. "OMG LOOK AT ALL THE BROWN PEOPLE COMING FOR OUR BORDER!!"

    After the election no one will be talking about it anymore and we'll have moved on to the next crisis.

    You guys should try not to be so predictable.

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    It's too valuable as a democratic football to ever resolve it.
    how so?

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    I have been to Honduras very poor country
    have to have security guards to watch your house when you leave. but it is what it is
    there is no reason if they get rid of corruption they could not be a much richer country
    if they do not change when the get to the usa soil the usa will be just like their country

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    We should open the borders to the billions of others that want to "seek a better life" while we are at it.
    literally no one -- besides a few lonely anarcho-capitalists -- is for that.

    no one in this thread has said they are for open borders, who the are you talking about?

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