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    FYI I followed the spurs since 2003.. parker and manu benefited on duncan’s Presence.. they are both Duncan’s sidekick..

    manu had the chance to score and carry the team in 2010-2011 season but he failed to average 20pts a game and loss to the 8 seed grizzlies in the playoffs..
    You are incorrect in many levels - let me rephrase:

    Manu and Tony both could have carried any team being the main guy scoring 30+ pts each night during their prime years. It just happened that they played the Spurs' system which simply doesn't play that way.

    I can also mention we will never know whether Duncan in all his greatness could have won any rings without another star next to him. Every championship team usually has 2-3 top star players.

    I cannot take you seriously at all - you clearly haven't followed the Spurs all of these years so please don't tell us you've been following them since 2003. It's not believable

    Now that all of these players are gone it's normal that some people would try to rewrite history, after they are all gone - but we all watched what happened and it's not what you are saying

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    Demar needs be measured by what he does in the playoffs. The same as Manu/TP. They could have had much better regular season stats if Pop had played them more minutes.

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    You can't judge him right now, he must be depressed to the point that it's crippling. He was already depressed but was the face of a rising franchise, in a great cosmopolitan city and loved, going to a franchise which is essentially the same as the Hornets right now, and don't start on SA vs Toronto city comparison

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    Did you watch those 2 in their prime? It's easy to become a prisoner of the moment, especially with Demar's current offensive output.
    We got accustomed to seeing Tony and Manu as players in their mid/late 30's with their primes well gone and passed. Obviously, Manu is retired. Tony not far behind.
    Also, in some metrics the Spurs are currently last in the NBA in defense. And actually the worst of all time, albeit a small sample size as well as scoring going through the roof. Do you apply zero of that blame to Demar simply because he is scoring and assisting at a high rate and it is exciting to watch? Demar has always been a shall we say, a below average defender. We are seeing that right now.
    Remember everyone for their prime and do not become a prisoner of the moment.

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    For those with poor memory or a glaring ignorance of the type of player Manu was, this is a scout review from a slighlty past prime Manu in 2008:

    Overview: A left-handed shooting guard who is deceptively athletic and tremendously skilled. One of the best all-around players in the league at his position. Easily the biggest steal of all-time in the draft considering where he was selected—57th! Decent build for his position. Really gets the most out of his athleticism. Has a nice first step, superb fluidity and surprising leaping ability. Possesses a great offensive skill set. Can score in a number of different ways thanks to his terrific body control, but does so efficiently. Plays good defense too. One of the craftiest players in the League. Honed his craft in Argentina in his youth, but became what he is playing in Italy before coming to the NBA. Used his experience to his advantage and became a very good player early in his tenure with the Spurs. One time All-Star. Comes off the bench despite his status as a star player. Very effective when used in that way. Per-minute one of the best players in the NBA. Doesn’t get nearly enough credit for how good he is. Keeps getting better and better too. Took time to develop the trust of his coaching staff, but is arguably San Antonio’s most important player now. A phenomenal teammate, has no ego--intangibles are off the charts. Won NBA Championships with the Spurs in 2003, 2005, and 2007.

    Offense: A dynamic offensive player who makes a huge impact off the bench. Gets a third of his shots running the pick and roll and another quarter as a spot up shooter. Displays a very consistent lefty jumper with impressive consistency from three point range. Wasn’t always as great of a shooter, but has worked extremely hard to become one. Takes a lot of threes. Great catch and shoot player. Takes more shots off the dribble than from a stand still. Connects at a respectable pace. Great ball handler and a tremendous passer. Can get minutes at the point and run the offense. Displays deceptive quickness, and even more deceptive leaping ability. Turns the corner on the pick and roll consistently, and gets in the lane at a very impressive rate. Slithery player who is as unorthodox as they come. Simply outsmarts his compe ion. Will dunk the ball at the rim, hard, and even in traffic when he gets a running start. Very creative when he can’t get above the rim. Displays tremendous touch on his finger roll. Will go right into the defense to draw contact. Goes to the line at a superb rate. Shoots a very good percentage from the foul line. Extremely efficient player in general.

    Defense: An extremely intelligent defender who reads the game and makes plays because of it. Plays aggressive on ball defensive. Gets in a low stance and slides his feet. Will get called for some blocking fouls, but will also draw a ton of charges. Largely considered a flopper, but he certainly knows how to make an impact with that skill. Reads passing lanes extremely well. Gets a lot of strips and deflections. Will block shots in transition too. Surprisingly explosive when he comes over from the weak side. Very good rebounder for his position. Not afraid to get physical

    - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Manu-Ginobili-2562/ ©DraftExpress

    You won't find a scout report like that for DeRozan at any point in history, tbh.

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    Also, in some metrics the Spurs are currently last in the NBA in defense. And actually the worst of all time, albeit a small sample size as well as scoring going through the roof. Do you apply zero of that blame to Demar ...
    No way does DDR get any blame for the 2018 Spurs dumpster fire that he got dropped into. His history is absolutely the last thing the Spurs should worry about.

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    Demar Depression

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    For those with poor memory or a glaring ignorance of the type of player Manu was, this is a scout review from a slighlty past prime Manu in 2008:

    Overview: A left-handed shooting guard who is deceptively athletic and tremendously skilled. One of the best all-around players in the league at his position. Easily the biggest steal of all-time in the draft considering where he was selected—57th! Decent build for his position. Really gets the most out of his athleticism. Has a nice first step, superb fluidity and surprising leaping ability. Possesses a great offensive skill set. Can score in a number of different ways thanks to his terrific body control, but does so efficiently. Plays good defense too. One of the craftiest players in the League. Honed his craft in Argentina in his youth, but became what he is playing in Italy before coming to the NBA. Used his experience to his advantage and became a very good player early in his tenure with the Spurs. One time All-Star. Comes off the bench despite his status as a star player. Very effective when used in that way. Per-minute one of the best players in the NBA. Doesn’t get nearly enough credit for how good he is. Keeps getting better and better too. Took time to develop the trust of his coaching staff, but is arguably San Antonio’s most important player now. A phenomenal teammate, has no ego--intangibles are off the charts. Won NBA Championships with the Spurs in 2003, 2005, and 2007.

    Offense: A dynamic offensive player who makes a huge impact off the bench. Gets a third of his shots running the pick and roll and another quarter as a spot up shooter. Displays a very consistent lefty jumper with impressive consistency from three point range. Wasn’t always as great of a shooter, but has worked extremely hard to become one. Takes a lot of threes. Great catch and shoot player. Takes more shots off the dribble than from a stand still. Connects at a respectable pace. Great ball handler and a tremendous passer. Can get minutes at the point and run the offense. Displays deceptive quickness, and even more deceptive leaping ability. Turns the corner on the pick and roll consistently, and gets in the lane at a very impressive rate. Slithery player who is as unorthodox as they come. Simply outsmarts his compe ion. Will dunk the ball at the rim, hard, and even in traffic when he gets a running start. Very creative when he can’t get above the rim. Displays tremendous touch on his finger roll. Will go right into the defense to draw contact. Goes to the line at a superb rate. Shoots a very good percentage from the foul line. Extremely efficient player in general.

    Defense: An extremely intelligent defender who reads the game and makes plays because of it. Plays aggressive on ball defensive. Gets in a low stance and slides his feet. Will get called for some blocking fouls, but will also draw a ton of charges. Largely considered a flopper, but he certainly knows how to make an impact with that skill. Reads passing lanes extremely well. Gets a lot of strips and deflections. Will block shots in transition too. Surprisingly explosive when he comes over from the weak side. Very good rebounder for his position. Not afraid to get physical

    - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Manu-Ginobili-2562/ ©DraftExpress

    You won't find a scout report like that for DeRozan at any point in history, tbh.
    this deserves a truth nuke gif

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    Ah, Manu was marvelous. Good times.

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    Manu/Parker's peak for any one game is easily as good if not better than Derozan's.

    But their durability is nowhere near, due to the lack of raw physical talent. Derozan is easily one of the most durable players. People also greatly underestimate on the impact of prime Tim Duncan as a teammate, he is the modern Bill Russell and will make you better. Having Duncan/Leonard to clean up on defense is a huge luxury as well in later years.

    There is a gigantic difference between exploding for a 25 point game and average that night in/night out being the #1 option. There is a reason Harden won MVP and Manu's ceiling was third team. The one year he played heavy minutes and carried, he was injured by playoff time (2011).
    Last edited by hitmantb; 10-26-2018 at 07:07 PM.

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    this thread is re ed. Derozan is not even close to Parker and Ginobili when it comes to Playoff performance and closing games. Ginobili is one of the clutchest players ever. And I'm not even taking defense into consideration.
    Derozan couldn't sniff their jock-straps.
    That being said...
    Go Dreozan! Learn to play like a champion!
    Those guys learned from the same mentor... So can you.

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    Imagine DeFrozen against the '05 Pistons

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    OP is a major got

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    I think demar will better than manu and tony stats wise...manu and tony won championships because they had Timmy on their side..but I think demar is a better player than the two..

    let see what demar can do as the season continues..
    You should feel ashamed of yourself.

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    *Looks at who started thread

    I'm not surprised at all. The fact that this was even submitted to "Post New Thread" should be an automatic ban for OP.

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    There is a reason Harden won MVP and Manu's ceiling was third team.

    We've got a little pool going here on Olympus over who is going to say the stupidest thing on ST in 2019. You just catapulted into the lead. I suspect Loki of putting you up to this. Nobody is that stupid on their own.

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    This is worthy of a ban, tbh

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    Derozan still has the better stats than manu and tony in a spurs uniform..lol

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