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    Who's gonna pick dem apples if you're only letting in the smart immigrants? You and Chris?


    A combination of this and you paying more for Apples. Yes, we could also have work programs (I'd get rid of birthright first) to allow Mexicans to come up and work if it's needed. This program should predominantly be for Mexicans to enrich our southern border.

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    fear of a brown nation?
    Fear of an underperforming majority. Their skin color is irrelevant. There will be loads of brown people that could come into the US legally.

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    Up to 14,000 active-dutytroops to deploy as

    Trump-ordered racist 'caravan' campaign prop


    rancid racists who have been stoking anti-immigrant, anti-refugee fear

    as an existential danger to this country solely as cheap electoral theater;

    now we are learning
    that ploy will include up to 14,000 active-duty U.S. military troops,

    many of them armed,

    to be deployed to the border to intercept
    a caravan of unarmed men, women, and children.

    These troops, which

    "are in fact deploying with weapons"

    will join up to 2,000 National Guards already at the border for a combined force of about 7,200—or about the same amount of U.S. soldiers involved in the battle against the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) in Iraq and Syria.

    "caravan" causing Donald Trump and his most robust supporters to soil themselves in fear

    is still roughly 1,000 miles away and

    continues to shrink in size;

    it is unclear whether a substantial portion of those refugees will reach the United States at all.

    An armed military response to asylum-seekers is an outrageously fascist notion;

    it is also a staggering misuse of government resources from

    an administration that continues to drift from incompetence to overt corruption.

    It is going to cost a small fortune to deploy the same number of troops

    to intercept a single group of refugees as the United States currently has stationed in Iraq and Syria;

    this will be paid for not by Donald Trump and his raving band of racist fearmongers, but by taxpayers.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...-campaign-prop

    Nielsen has said there are no plans, so far, to shoot the asylum seekers.



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    Fear of an underperforming majority. Their skin color is irrelevant. There will be loads of brown people that could come into the US legally.
    you're afraid that Hispanics' relatively low SAT scores means they won't be good citizens?

    walk us through it, I don't see the threat.

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    A combination of this and you paying more for Apples. Yes, we could also have work programs (I'd get rid of birthright first) to allow Mexicans to come up and work if it's needed. This program should predominantly be for Mexicans to enrich our southern border.
    Why am I paying more for apples?

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    I agree. But hush on their treatment while applying. There also should be a limit on number of applications reviewed within a given time span.
    off regarding your admonitions to hush up. Non-operative on this board and in this country. Jeff Sessions is free to change a lot of things about immigration. It's him or the US Congress you should address your complaint to.

    We don't need to detain all asylum seekers, let alone at today's low levels. Goes against long-standing custom.

    Under no cir stances they walk freely on US soil before being approved
    That's not up to you, but things seem to be rolling your way at the moment.

    Democrats drag feet or outright oppose much of what I wrote about. Hence: many Democrats are traitors
    You have no idea what treason means in this country.

    Democrats disagree with you, hence they have betrayed the whole country.

    Grandiose much?

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    Why am I paying more for apples?
    Because that's what happens when you take illegals out of the labor market. Americans will simply demand and get paid more. So you will have to pay more for apples.

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    Chris with nothing to say

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    I don't know if this is true or not or has been brought up but whatever

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ms-Mexico.html
    Second migrant caravan storms into Mexico: 'Violent' group from Central America carrying BOMBS and guns defies a huge police presence to cross the border from Guatemala as Trump deploys 5,200 troops


    • The second caravan making their way up through Central America have members armed with explosives
    • Had gasoline bombs made of soft-drink bottles, and improvised PVC tubes to launch fireworks
    • Mexican federal police briefly blocked the migrants from crossing the Suchiate River on Monday
    • But the migrants soon defied the law enforcement presence and broke through into Mexico
    • Many tried to swim or wade across to Mexico, some while carrying children
    • Law enforcement avoided a second day of violence, a day after a confrontation left one migrant dead

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    Claim that 80 percent of migrants in caravan are "military-aged" men can be traced back to a Fox News contributor

    Fox News contributor Sara Carter’s claim that

    the majority of migrants are men has spread among right-wing media, who are now calling the men “military-aged”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...ck-to-a/221921

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    Because that's what happens when you take illegals out of the labor market. Americans will simply demand and get paid more. So you will have to pay more for apples.
    Probably not. You'll still be picking apples at minimum wage.

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    Probably not. You'll still be picking apples at minimum wage.
    Well that answers your question of who is going to pick the apples.

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    I don't know if this is true or not or has been brought up but whatever

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ms-Mexico.html
    Second migrant caravan storms into Mexico: 'Violent' group from Central America carrying BOMBS and guns defies a huge police presence to cross the border from Guatemala as Trump deploys 5,200 troops


    • The second caravan making their way up through Central America have members armed with explosives
    • Had gasoline bombs made of soft-drink bottles, and improvised PVC tubes to launch fireworks
    • Mexican federal police briefly blocked the migrants from crossing the Suchiate River on Monday
    • But the migrants soon defied the law enforcement presence and broke through into Mexico
    • Many tried to swim or wade across to Mexico, some while carrying children
    • Law enforcement avoided a second day of violence, a day after a confrontation left one migrant dead
    So all those photos and videos and no bombs or guns seen on anyone in the caravan.

    Odd.

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    to sum up, the majority of so-called illegal immigrants to the US come on valid visas and overstay them, and these are increasingly Asian and college-degreed.

    walk us through the threat these people pose, Nathan89.

    is it that they may one day exclude you for being underperforming?

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    Well that answers your question of who is going to pick the apples.
    So you're wanting to keep these apple picking illegals out so badly that you'd be willing to do the apple picking for us.

    That's a serious dedication to bigoted patriotism and/or the lowest level of elitism I've ever seen.

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    "The U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey gathered data on the jobless rate of non-ins utionalized men, 20 to 34 years old, averaged over the period, 2010-2014, for 34 major US cities. The data paint a grim picture for black men, particularly in the Midwestern industrial and the Mid-Atlantic cities. Like Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and D.C. all had black jobless rates above 45 percent. In these cities, more young black men were either jobless or imprisoned than employed."

    https://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog..._disgrace.html

    There are plenty of able body people that can do these jobs. Americans may have to pay more but Americans will benefit. Farming is a large industry for illegals but we should not act like apple picking is the only job they are taking or lowering the wages of for Americans.

    Link to jobs:

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/0...grant-workers/

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    Americans may have to pay more but Americans will benefit.
    high priced apples = better America!

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    That's not my point with that quote. My point is having an IQ test as part of a merit based legal system is perfectly reasonable. Allowing people to walk across the border is not.
    No it's not. It's pretty well do ented that IQ is only one small part of what makes a person successful. Studies have shown that "normal" IQ is all that is required for success. After that EQ becomes the far more determining factor.

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    I'd like to see Trump's IQ test

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    high priced apples = better America!
    I don't see why we are employing illegals in all those industries give that out of work statistic for black men age 20-34. Pay more and put give Americans the jobs.

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    to sum up, the majority of so-called illegal immigrants to the US come on valid visas and overstay them, and these are increasingly Asian and college-degreed.

    walk us through the threat these people pose, Nathan89.
    Never mind that you've not shown that the caravan poses any specific threat to the USA.

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    I'd like to see Trump's IQ test
    Obama thought there was 57 states

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    60% of the caravan tweets last week were bot driven.

    here's a tool to check if you're being led by the nose by political bots: https://botcheck.me/

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