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He's having a bad year, but he's been a great three-and-D player with legit size. Would have a chance to be a really good player for years. Does make about $5 Million more per than I'd like.
Are you both talking about Otto Porter? The guy who makes 27M and averages 11 pts a game this year?
He's having a bad year, but he's been a great three-and-D player with legit size. Would have a chance to be a really good player for years. Does make about $5 Million more per than I'd like.
He's having a bad start, but shot over 50% both of the last 2 seasons and in the same period, over 43% from 3, and scored 13.4 and 14.7 ppg. He's 25, and a plug in starting SF. Washington is a dumpster fire, and there are two big dogs that eat at the trough before he does. I'd take him in a heartbeat. In this superheated NBA economy, $26M is a pretty normal deal for a young quality wing starter who still has some potential to tap. This is what it is to 'buy low'. You have to roll the dice on a guy with a couple of good seasons under his belt, but who is really struggling now, and makes a pretty big paycheck.
Going back to a point I made earlier . . .
If we trade for OPJ, Wizards will want Poeltl even if the rest is just salary filler (they consider OPJ's contract an albatross and have no bench) at positions outside of SF.
Are you ready to trust Metu/Miluntinov now and also guarantee the final year of Pau's contract? If it really is Mills/Bertans/Poeltl for OPJ (a pick could go in either direction and also Forbes) then we could re-sign Gay for 2 years or a 1+1 to line up with LMA, DDR, and OPJ to have:
Murray/DDR/OPJ/LMA/Gasol
White/Marco/Gay/Metu/Milutinov
1-3 picks/Forbes?/Blossomgame?/whatever Milutinov doesn't take of the MLE/minimum deals
The Wizards probably wanted Kawhi last year too. Them wanting Jakob doesn't mean SA has to give him up. Not that I'd really care about that trade, but Gasol is necessary salary filler for anything prior to January (and likely afterwards given how expensive Mills is. The idea of trading Pau and Poeltl is risky. Like they'd need to have a plan for the five already set up. Buyout candidates, a Baynes 2.0 from overseas. They can't give Brimah and Eubanks real minutes without those guys showing a LOT more than they have so far.
I would do that in a heartbeat. In the offseason you'd still have the MLE to add another defensive wing in Stanley Johnson and the draft pick for another wing. We could easily sign Tyson Chandler for the vet minimum as a back up big.
Murray/DeRozan/Porter/Gay/Aldridge
White/Forbes/Belinelli/Johnson/Chandler
vet PG/Walker/Rookie SF/Metu/Milutinov
So we are “buying low” at a guy making close to the unrestricted FA max about the same as DD and LMA. A guy who was part of a “dumpster fire” team and an “albatross” contract for The Washington Generals. Never averaged more than 15 points during the season. He’s going to expect a max contract next go around too. Quality posters on here like him so I must be lost in the woods on this one, I don’t watch a whole lot of NBA outside of the Spurs. Remember NBA peeps laughing at the Wizards for matching that contract when it happened. I admit I haven’t seen him play a lot.
This smells like caca
Washington is having a bad season as a team but he’s young and has been really good inba very recent past. You are talking about a young player who can shoot defend and has years of health and his prime ahead. This is the franchise that has Paddy abd Pau in overpriced deals... yeah I take Otto and send the duo out.
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Last edited by SAGirl; 11-03-2018 at 12:29 AM.
I can't wait for years of pathetic ing about Otto Porter's contract like we get about Patty and Gasol.
Porter's likely a free agent after next season.
Don't get why people here say "maybe the Spurs make playoffs. maybe not. there is no pressure..."
Are you watching other teams' games? They won tonight but Houston and OKC are still playing horrible. Utah Pels aren't consistent. Lakers is a non-playoff team.
There isn't a better team than the Warriors and the Spurs in the WC.
Yeah, that makes it way more palatable. The Spurs have a lot of cap space lined up in 2020.
Of course, that makes the Wizards less likely to want to dump him too. His contract is big in dollar terms, but short enough in duration to not really be an albatross.
Not sure we're second best in the West, but do agree Spurs are easily a playoff team.
so you think we’re gonna get the 2nd seed?
Yes.
In many offseason threads I rated them above every team in the West but GSW. After Murray/Lonnie/White injures I though 2-4 could be fair. Then back to my original #2 seed.
Really? I hope your take become a reality
I expect the Spurs to make the playoffs, but tomorrow's game will do a lot to determine how good the team is. The Pelicans are a solid, but not elite, playoff team. Beating them at home is just what a team in the top half of the Western bracket has to do. I don't expect it to be easy without some fourth Spur flirting with a 20-point game. Hopefully Gasol can come in and continue his aggressive play. I like Randle a lot, but I do think the team can get away with playing big for stretches. They don't need to start Poeltl or anything like that, but getting in some good Aldridge/Gasol time would help put pressure on NOP's front court.
and is also a better player than Patty and Pau together
Having Porter on the team by fiat would definitely be worth it in my opinion. It's just a question of how much is too much to trade. Like they could ask for Walker, Gasol and Poeltl. I wouldn't touch that. Dunno if I'd even touch a Bertans, Gasol, and both picks deal if that SA pick isn't like top-23 protected or something. The goal of any Porter trade would be to still have a viable roster afterwards or at least having a free pick to use this summer. I like Otto, but he's still a complementary player.
I'm also not involving Walker in any trade currently possible, he could be the best player on the team before his first contract ends.
I've been saying Otto Porter, Jr. for Gasol and Mills for several months. Under Pop he'd be very good and Washington gets two players with several years of NBA Championships experience. I could easily see us getting to the WC Finals. Maybe with a few breaks we go to the ???
The team would never trade Pau and Patty in the same season unless they got a certified star player back in the deal. Both guys are elder statesmen and looked at as leaders on the team. I honestly would be surprised if the team did any type of deal this season also but you never know.
Like many have already stated Otto Porter Jr. is a good player who is heavily overpaid. I think he would fit nicely with our team but Washington is going to be unrealistic with trade demands if they try to move him.
I honestly hope Pop actually plays Walker once he is back from injury because that means he might actually be a solid to good NBA player sooner rather than later. If he gets run that means Pop has confidence in him
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