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    DAN HOPKINS10:26 PM
    In Montana, it’s early, but Democratic Sen. Jon Tester is on pace with his 2012 margin in Yellowstone County (Billings), and he is outperforming his 2012 margin in Lewis and Clark County, home to Helena.
    This prevents any GOP hope of a 60-40 supermajority in 2020 if Trump wins.


    Montana is a red state, but it's a Libertarian state, most people there aren't god-fearing and are younger... and pro legalization, gay marriage, abortion, pro gun rights etc.

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    Now let's see Hurd go down. Played pee wee football with that got
    Pretty doubtful as El Paso is 100% in. Bexar is only 23% counted and Hurd has a slight lead in it.

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    House won dummy.

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    Rust belt largely leaned left tonight. I don't think it will affect 2020 to the left much if at all in the general. Ohio, Michigan etc are trending right demographically. But good night there for Dems to prevent some super-majority in the GOP Senate.
    Rust belt is one of the main reasons Trump won, and has nothing to do with demographics, but manufacturing jobs... this is why it's interesting tonight, now that it's clear those jobs ain't coming back...

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    Called that

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    Big blue wave .. see it? Right there!

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    I don't think this election transfers to a Presidential race. Just like 2010 didn't mean against Obama. Dems need to find a decent candidate. If it's Kamala, as I predict, they ed.
    I think some regions do give you a pulse... but if the Dems stroll Shillary out again, foggedabouit...

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    NATE SILVER10:32 PM
    New York closes polls late (which is a good thing!!!) and is slow to count its vote, but a lot of interesting races there will determine how many pickups Democrats will have in the House. Chris Collins is down early in New York 27, for example.

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    I think some regions do give you a pulse... but if the Dems stroll Shillary out again, foggedabouit...
    Or Black Shillary in Booker

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    Rust belt is one of the main reasons Trump won, and has nothing to do with demographics, but manufacturing jobs... this is why it's interesting tonight, now that it's clear those jobs ain't coming back...
    I spent time in Ohio this year. Columbus, OH jobs have increased by 266% since Trump won, but it has next to nothing to do with manufacturing. Most of the job growth is in finance and technology, especially the latter. I.T. and related office jobs have ed in the Rust Belt -- from Cincinnati to Columbus to Madison to Indy to Grand Rapids to even Pittsburgh, tremendously since Trump won.

    Companies are seeing cheaper land and rent and lower salary expectations (as opposed to say, California or the Northeast) as great opportunity to build their corporate offices there and bring in a lot of new highly educated business office workers.

    Only large cities to not have significant job growth in the Rust Belt since Trump won... Cleveland and Detroit. Which are holes forever, I think. Companies don't want to put their office HQs there, and for good reason.

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    I am glad I did not live in Texas not sure I could vote for Cruz
    Huh?

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    Which ?

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    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/0...grant-workers/

    Here's some jobs for unemployed Americans. They are just being done by Dem illegal immigrants.

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    Probably thinks we still have a literacy test here.

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    I spent time in Ohio this year. Columbus, OH jobs have increased by 266% since Trump won, but it has next to nothing to do with manufacturing. Most of the job growth is in finance and technology, especially the latter. I.T. and related office jobs have ed in the Rust Belt -- from Cincinnati to Columbus to Madison to Indy to Grand Rapids to even Pittsburgh, tremendously since Trump won.

    Only large cities to not have significant job growth in the Rust Belt since Trump won... Cleveland and Detroit. Which are holes forever, I think. Companies don't want to put their office HQs there, and for good reason.
    That's the point. Large cities mostly end up voting Dem in the long run... it's the rural areas that are missing the manufacturing jobs, and the gig is up, they're not coming back.

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    Or Black Shillary in Booker
    Booker would be fine, same as Kamala or Beto... they're running against Trump, you don't really need a serious candidate...

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    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/0...grant-workers/

    Here's some jobs for unemployed Americans. They are just being done by Dem illegal immigrants.
    Nathan staying on brand per/par


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    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/0...grant-workers/

    Here's some jobs for unemployed Americans. They are just being done by Dem illegal immigrants.
    Correct. The Trump utopia of white Americans foregoing liberal college and going back to the industrial jobs of the 1960s and earlier, will never come to pass, but that's okay.


    The growth of office jobs that require only a bachelor's degree since Trump won, is astounding. The Rust Belt in particular has huge office job growth because big name companies want to save money on rent/property costs and salaries and put their HQs in new and interesting places with talented local workers who might not want to move OOS after graduating from, say, a Big 10 school... or, maybe bring in some kids from other states as well?!?

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    Nathan staying on brand per/par

    You posting that re ed image to deflect reality per par

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    Cruz is a losser

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    You posting that re ed image to deflect reality per par
    How is this not realistic?


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    Booker would be fine, same as Kamala or Beto... they're running against Trump, you don't really need a serious candidate...
    Booker would lose by a little.. Kamala by a lot... Hillary by a landslide... Beto would have a chance if he played his cards right.


    Trump is definitely the favorite in 2020 due to economics and job growth. People vote with their wallets #1. Logos always wins over pathos for the most part. Dems will have to prove they can do better on the economy than Trump.

    As far as the idiotic tweets and bile from his mouth goes, he'd have to be insanely bad... beyond imagination... to do worse than 2016 in that regard. And, he won in 2016.

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    Evers up 4100 votes on Walker in Wisconsin but seems like red districts have more votes outstanding

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