Exactly.
Who's the guy with the white headband I keep seeing the games? Or black headband
Exactly.
Ujiri straight up toyed with Pop and Buford. If the Spurs would have said, for example: Kawhi and Mills for DeRozan and CJ Miles, do you think the Raptors would have said no? I'm sure Masai is still laughing his ass off at how bad he played these two. No wonder the Spurs were never too kind on making trades.![]()
1. Kawhi was legitimately great, the kind of great that could get to the playoffs almost by himself
2. Players with legit size for their position who could make either athletic plays (Dedmon, Lee, Simmons, Green) or just athletic enough to still make smart plays (Duncan, Manu, first year Pau)
Now all that's left is undersized for the position guys who either aren't athletic enough or make bad choices or have crumbled into dust as they aged like Pau.
What a load of crap. Spurs were 7-1 without Kawhi his last full season, beating the warriors, raptors, Memphis, Toronto, Portland. He didn't even play huge minutes to be arguing he carried some amazing load. Go ask Lillard or AD what it's like to carry crap.
Yes, this roster has issues, yes Kawhi is a top 5 player. But the fact is we just played our tenth game, have a quarter of our rotation injured, and lost more than just Kawhi over the last two seasons. We wouldnt even be in this situation if it weren't for him being broken goods, either mentally or physically. Let him win 60+, dpoy, finals mvp somewhere else before you cut your veins like a jilted woman...
I think Kawhi stays if Spurs kept that squad together
Oh and I should add, for the past 15 years so many here cried about the team being old and injury prone... Go look it up, the best teams are consistently older teams. All those desperate to rebuild and get younger are getting what you wanted, a team that has to learn to survive and win in the NBA.
We are still one of the oldest teams, tbh.
Went from first to sixth, pretty sure we've been top 2 for most of the past 15 years..
First of he had Duncan ginobili and Parker Derozan doesn’t have any of those
We won 47 with him dragging down the team last year tbh.
Yep. To double down on ty Mills and Gasol who was predictably trending downwards by the time Kawhi went down against GS. Wouldn't surprise me if that annoyed Kawhi.
I said it in another thread but the Raptors have the kind of team you need to win in today's NBA. Loaded with wings. That's what you need to stop the Warriors. Meanwhile the Spurs are still trying to win with traditonal bigmen. Unless the big men are TD good it's not going to happen.
Kawhi was the real MVP of 2016-17.
Raptors could win without kahwi
nope..Westbrook and harden was much better that season
if westbrook did not averaged triple double that season maybe kawhi had a chance..
even harden almost averaged triple double that season and led the rockets to 55 wins.
Westbrook and Harden were so butthurt KL2 was stealing their thunder, exposing them in h2h two-way swings during marquee matchups in that season, they had their owners lobby Silver to pull a "random" drug test on Kawhi for peds use.
Small sample size, even lotto teams go on winning streaks.
Gasol and Parker both missed around 20 games each in 16-17
Green shot 32% from 3 the 2nd half of the season
Ginobili shot a career low 39% from 2, 31% from 3 the 2nd half of the season
Murray only played 38 games and was underwhelming
Simmons averaged 6ppg on 42%, 29% from 3
Dedmon eventually fell out of Pop's rotation
Lee couldn't find work in the NBA after leaving the Spurs
Aldridge averaged his lowest ppg since his 2nd year
That supporting cast isn't much better if at all than AD's current cast with guys like Holiday & Mirotic who are putting up some pretty good numbers.
8 games is small sample, but 10 isnt... :Lol
Main difference between pelicans current roster and two years ago is health, you can have two Hall of famers and a legit goat candidate, if they aren't healthy you aren't winning- Spurs currently don't have that, nor health, but let's justify the max player with the lowest work load in history sitting out and leaving because "it's too hard" (on the heels, no less, of his terrible teammates winning games 5 and 6 of the semis without him).
Just go bandwagon whoever is winning every 2-3 weeks if you can't bear losing 4 games out of 10
Kawhi played the best season of his life, that's why. He was Top 3 in MVP and DPOY voting. If you watched that season, which I watched every game of, everybody saw that the team was relying way too much on him. That team was still a lot better than the one we have now. I mean we went from Kawhi, Ginobili, Green, David Lee, Jonathon Simmons, Dedmon and Parker to DeRozan, White, Cunningham, Belinelli, Forbes, Bertans and Poeltl
He didn't have Duncan in 2017...and Parker was absolute ass that same year... Wasn't a starter level point guard...
It annoyed US... Of course it annoyed the guy that has to carry them... Lol
Win what?
with all respect but the only guy who seems close to "cut your veins" is you
Their offensive numbers were better. Kawhi can impact on both sides of the ball
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