Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 85, Hospitalized With 3 Fractured Ribs after fallong

[Will Hunting]

... NEVER had one

Yeah we get, they never had a supermajority and because of that the Republicans were able to filibuster everything and the poor, helpless Democrats had no way to stop it. Blah blah blah. It couldn’t possibility be that the Democrats in power after the 2008 elections didn’t really care as much about sweeping reform as they led the American people to believe and were perfectly content with blaming the Republican filibuster for why they got nothing other than Bob Doles healthcare plan done.

[baseline bum]

He’s still in his 60s iirc.

They had a ing golden opportunity to take SCOTUS when Scalia died unexpectedly but Obama let himself get bullied by McConnell because he was overconfident Hillary would win.

He is 70

[Will Hunting]

He is 70

Still somewhat young imo but he might step down in the next 2 years if it looks like Trump will go down in 2020.

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah we get, they never had a supermajority and because of that the Republicans were able to filibuster everything and the poor, helpless Democrats had no way to stop it. Blah blah blah. It couldn’t possibility be that the Democrats in power after the 2008 elections didn’t really care as much about sweeping reform as they led the American people to believe and were perfectly content with blaming the Republican filibuster for why they got nothing other than Bob Doles healthcare plan done.

ya'll got ed

[hater]

Wishing her a speedy recover and for a long career ahead of her!

Career as a corpse?

[Winehole23]

Career as a corpse?

a long career as a corpse is everyone's future

[Chucho]

a long career as a corpse is everyone's future

Ya don't get paid, but you're allowed to sleep on the job.

[Reck]

Is it too much to ask for 2 more years out of her? hang the on for dear life.

[baseline bum]

Is it too much to ask for 2 more years out of her? hang the on for dear life.

You'll probably need at least four based on the Democrats performance in the senate races on Tuesday.

[Reck]

You'll probably need at least four based on the Democrats performance in the senate races on Tuesday.

Electorally, they're looking back on track. All the states that went for Trump went back to dems very solidly. All 3 senators from those states won their re-election with more than 50%. Without Hillary on the ballot, things start looking decent, EC wise.

[baseline bum]

Electorally, they're looking back on track. All the states that went for Trump went back to dems very solidly. All 3 senators from those states won their re-election with more than 50%. Without Hillary on the ballot, things start looking decent, EC wise.

Tell me which five states the Democrats flip in the 2020 senate race. Because the GOP has 54 seats unless something drastic changes in the Arizona and Florida races and no way Doug Jones holds his seat when he's not running against a pedo.

Which five?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...lections,_2020

[Reck]

Tell me which five states the Democrats flip in the 2020 senate race. Because the GOP has 54 seats unless something drastic changes in the Arizona and Florida races and no way Doug Jones holds his seat when he's not running against a pedo.

Which five?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...lections,_2020

Oh I'm talking about the presidency itself, not senate.

But now that you mention it, McCain's seat could be in play. Susan Collins etc.

Yesterday you mentioned possibly Colorado and Iowa. That's 4 right there. lol

The GOP seems highly desperate in Arizona. They are suing counties because they dont want them to count the outstanding vote which is in the realm of 600,000.

[Will Hunting]

Here’s the 4 that jump out:

Colorado (this is the easy one)
North Carolina (if a Democrat Supreme Court in NC can stem voter suppression laws)
Maine (I wouldn’t say this except I think Collins will get hurt for supporting Kavanaugh)
Arizona (there wont be an in bent unless Kyl runs which is unlikely)

The 5th one is challenging. It would have to be Texas, Georgia, or Iowa. I’d normally put Iowa higher on the list except Trump has made it a lean red state.

[Will Hunting]

But more likely though the Dems would need something like what happened in 2012 when there were several senate races that would have been unwinnable if not for tea bagger candidates who say ridiculous about how women can’t get pregnant from “legitimate rape”.

EDIT: rechecked and it was two senate races the Dems won in 2012 purely because of re ed tea bagger candidates who made a dumb comment about rape (Indiana and Missouri, both of which just flipped back). IMO they would need that to happen again in a state like Tennessee.

[baseline bum]

Here’s the 4 that jump out:

Colorado (this is the easy one)
North Carolina (if a Democrat Supreme Court in NC can stem voter suppression laws)
Maine (I wouldn’t say this except I think Collins will get hurt for supporting Kavanaugh)
Arizona (there wont be an in bent unless Kyl runs which is unlikely)

The 5th one is challenging. It would have to be Texas, Georgia, or Iowa. I’d normally put Iowa higher on the list except Trump has made it a lean red state.

I forgot about the Arizona special election. I guess Ducey traded having the special election take place in a presidential year to get RapeK on the court. I don't see Collins losing her seat.

[Will Hunting]

I forgot about the Arizona special election. I guess Ducey traded having the special election take place in a presidential year to get RapeK on the court. I don't see Collins losing her seat.

It’s too bad that Cornyn is the one up in a presidential year and not Cruz. If t was Beto vs Cornyn in a midterm election Beto could actually benefit from low tea bagger voter turnout since they view Cornyn as an establishment Republican.

[Mitch]

Is it too much to ask for 2 more years out of her? hang the on for dear life.

C'mon bro, you rather she dies on the bench or spending time with her grandkids?

[Millennial_Messiah]

It’s too bad that Cornyn is the one up in a presidential year and not Cruz. If t was Beto vs Cornyn in a midterm election Beto could actually benefit from low tea bagger voter turnout since they view Cornyn as an establishment Republican.

Ideally for Democrats, Beto should be at the top of the ballot, not running for senator.

[Millennial_Messiah]

bou

2009 they had 57 + 2 independents that caucused with them.

Not to mention there was a brief 6 or so month window in late 2009-early 2010 (when Ted Kennedy was about to die of cancer, but he had people authorized to vote for him) where they actually did have the supermajority... 60-40, that helped them big time speed up getting the ACA passed.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Here’s the 4 that jump out:

Colorado (this is the easy one)
North Carolina (if a Democrat Supreme Court in NC can stem voter suppression laws)
Maine (I wouldn’t say this except I think Collins will get hurt for supporting Kavanaugh)
Arizona (there wont be an in bent unless Kyl runs which is unlikely)

The 5th one is challenging. It would have to be Texas, Georgia, or Iowa. I’d normally put Iowa higher on the list except Trump has made it a lean red state.

You also would have to factor in Doug Jones likely to get curbstomped in Bama. I'd say most likely case is Bama and Colorado flip and that's that.


also, Joe Manchin is a DINO who votes on his own mixed ideologies and could pull a reverse Arlen Specter at any time

[Will Hunting]

You also would have to factor in Doug Jones likely to get curbstomped in Bama. I'd say most likely case is Bama and Colorado flip and that's that.


also, Joe Manchin is a DINO who votes on his own mixed ideologies and could pull a reverse Arlen Specter at any time

Manchin has voted with the Dems on Supreme Court picks though.

And yes saying they need to get 5 seats assumes they lose Alabama. That only gives them 50 seats but if they’re picking up seats in AZ and NC then they probably won the presidential election too.

[baseline bum]

You also would have to factor in Doug Jones likely to get curbstomped in Bama. I'd say most likely case is Bama and Colorado flip and that's that.


also, Joe Manchin is a DINO who votes on his own mixed ideologies and could pull a reverse Arlen Specter at any time

Manchin is a critical member of the senate for the Democrats to have and it's great he just got elected again for six more years. They will have no chance of getting another Democrat from West Virginia again until there is a major party realignment, likely in the far future.

[baseline bum]

Manchin has voted with the Dems on Supreme Court picks though.

And he would have killed the RapeK nomination if not for Collins cementing it.

[boutons_deux]

Manchin is a critical member of the senate for the Democrats to have and it's great he just got elected again for six more years. They will have no chance of getting another Democrat from West Virginia again until there is a major party realignment, likely in the far future.

... except Manchin is prototypical, "squishy" DINO on many votes. Only better than a hard core Repug asshole.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Manchin is a critical member of the senate for the Democrats to have and it's great he just got elected again for six more years. They will have no chance of getting another Democrat from West Virginia again until there is a major party realignment, likely in the far future.

Tester and Manchin exist to prevent any hope of a GOP super-majority in the near term in case of a red wave, but also give the Dems a small outside shot by 2022 if they are able to pick up a seat next round (?) and if Trump wins in 2020, maybe they can get Ron Johnson and Pat Toomey out in 2022...