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    Vote in november, folks!
    When do you vote in your country?

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    There's no mention in that regulation for past or present (or future), you're making that up. It's whether this person is part of a current, open investigation/prosecution. The investigation is ongoing, so he is. His recusal is mandatory because he's at the top of the chain. Him being his own supervisor means there's an inherent conflict of interest. Sessions understood this, which is why he recused himself under the same rule.

    So what happens if he doesn't recuse? Maybe nothing. Maybe Congress subpoena him and refers him for criminal investigation. The question here is whether this guy is willing to throw his career away for Trump. Maybe he is, we'll see.
    Rosenstein is a key witness, why haven’t you said it’s mandatory he recuse himself?



    I must say I am amused by the media pearl-clutching over the fact that Whitaker will presumably be assuming supervisory responsibility over the Mueller investigation.

    Since Mueller came into the picture, that responsibility has been exercised, quite passively, by Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein. He appointed Mueller on May 17, 2017, to take the reins of the Russia investigation that had been ongoing for several months. As I have detailed, Rosenstein has been laboring under blatant conflicts of interest.

    To summarize, the special counsel has been scrutinizing the president’s firing of former FBI director James Comey in the obstruction aspect of his investigation. Rosenstein was a prominent participant in the firing and is thus an important witness. Rosenstein, moreover, signed off on the last FISA warrant application for surveillance against former Trump-campaign adviser Carter Page, which is under investigation by Congress and DOJ’s inspector general. Rosenstein, using the Mueller investigation as part of his rationale, has stonewalled Congress’s demands for relevant information. The surveillance of Page is plainly germane to Mueller’s Russia investigation. Since Rosenstein’s actions are under scrutiny — and given that this is in addition to the just-described, patent conflict posed by his involvement in Comey’s firing — one would think Rosenstein would want to step aside rather than have his ethical sensibility questioned.

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    Obvious now why the left is terrified and demanding his recusal.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...901178368.html

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    beanz!

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    ^racist

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    ^ fake Christian

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    Obvious now why the left is terrified and demanding his recusal.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...901178368.html
    Terrified of what?

    Do you think he's in that role permanently or what?

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    Other than skin color, most of that can be thwarted by being conservative tbh

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    Terrified of what?

    Do you think he's in that role permanently or what?
    You know about going in and out of roles eh?

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    Other than skin color, most of that can be thwarted by being conservative tbh
    Agreed, it was some left extremist I saw on facebook.

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    REMBER TO VOTE! THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTONG OF OUR LEIFTAIN!

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    Rosenstein is a key witness, why haven’t you said it’s mandatory he recuse himself?



    I must say I am amused by the media pearl-clutching over the fact that Whitaker will presumably be assuming supervisory responsibility over the Mueller investigation.

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    Because he's simply incorrect in his allegation. The investigation is not about Comey's firing, it's about Russian interference in the election.

    Unless Mueller makes a case that Comey's firing was intended to obstruct his investigation (a case, AFAIK, that he has not made), then the point is moot.

    If Rosenstein was or becomes involved in any way with the Trump campaign or people involved in that campaign, or people directly involved in the investigation, then he should definitely recuse himself, or talk to the AG about getting an exception.

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    Because he's simply incorrect in his allegation. The investigation is not about Comey's firing, it's about Russian interference in the election.

    Unless Mueller makes a case that Comey's firing was intended to obstruct his investigation (a case, AFAIK, that he has not made), then the point is moot.

    If Rosenstein was or becomes involved in any way with the Trump campaign or people involved in that campaign, or people directly involved in the investigation, then he should definitely recuse himself, or talk to the AG about getting an exception.
    You are correct - and

    FYI

    it has been regularly reported already that Rosenstein has been in direct talks with the DOJ ethics panels and has - so far been told his recusal is not necessary - AT THIS TIME -

    so if and when - the case arrives at a point where Rosensteins involvement would create a conflict of interest - Rosenstein would be advised to recuse at that time.

    DOJ/FBI - lifers go by the book pretty much and usually don't like losing their lifelong pensions just to do a stupid (or partisan) thing. They know that they could step down and another lifer could take over and do a great job also.

    Only FOX news and people like TSA believe in these conspiracies/deep state/ trump derangement whatever-

    The ONE thing they cannot fathom is that Trump is a lying criminal. THAT is not a possibility in their mind.

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    Because he's simply incorrect in his allegation. The investigation is not about Comey's firing, it's about Russian interference in the election.

    Unless Mueller makes a case that Comey's firing was intended to obstruct his investigation (a case, AFAIK, that he has not made), then the point is moot.

    If Rosenstein was or becomes involved in any way with the Trump campaign or people involved in that campaign, or people directly involved in the investigation, then he should definitely recuse himself, or talk to the AG about getting an exception.
    The firing of Comey brought about the Special Counsel. Pretending they aren’t connected is laughable. But let’s move beyond that and focus on just the Russia investigation.

    How is Rosenstein signing the Page FISA renewal not about Russian interference in the election? How is that not involved in any way with the Trump campaign, or people involved in that campaign, or anyone directly involved in the investigation?

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    Her narrative and your eating it up like a plate of beanz is the funny part.

    When do the military tribunals prosecuting the Democrats start, TSA?
    What’s her narrative in your opinion? Any article you want to comment on or you just going to fall back on more nervous laughter?

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    Every time Trump fires someone or there is a "resignation" the knee jerk reaction is:

    1.) "It's a coup"!

    2.) "Wait until Mueller gets a hold of him!"

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    Every time Trump fires someone or there is a "resignation" the knee jerk reaction is:

    1.) "It's a coup"!

    2.) "Wait until Mueller gets a hold of him!"
    3.) "Everything in the white house is going great!!"

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    The firing of Comey brought about the Special Counsel. Pretending they aren’t connected is laughable. But let’s move beyond that and focus on just the Russia investigation.
    the firing of comey did not launch the russia investigation. therefore rosenstein need not recuse himself from the russia investigation. as nono said, if the firing of comey becomes a pivotal point (in some obstruction case) then it's potentially a different story

    How is Rosenstein signing the Page FISA renewal not about Russian interference in the election? How is that not involved in any way with the Trump campaign, or people involved in that campaign, or anyone directly involved in the investigation?
    so every time a DOJ official signs a do ent pertaining to an investigation they have to recuse themselves and bring somebody else in? no... thats how investigations work. taking part of an investigation is not a conflict of interest.

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    the firing of comey did not launch the russia investigation. therefore rosenstein need not recuse himself from the russia investigation. as nono said, if the firing of comey becomes a pivotal point (in some obstruction case) then it's potentially a different story


    so every time a DOJ official signs a do ent pertaining to an investigation they have to recuse themselves and bring somebody else in? no... thats how investigations work. taking part of an investigation is not a conflict of interest.
    I’ll take Andrew McCarthy’s legal opinion over yours and Nono’s. No hard feelings.

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    I’ll take Andrew McCarthy’s legal opinion over yours and Nono’s. No hard feelings.
    by all means. all of these supposedly applicable conflicts of interest have existed since the day mueller was appointed in may 2017, and there hasn't been any significant legal battle to have rosenstein's recusal

    but i'm sure mccarthy has been right all along

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    What’s her narrative in your opinion? Any article you want to comment on or you just going to fall back on more nervous laughter?
    That Democrats actively fear this appointment after you said military tribunals are coming to get them for a solid year.

    Were they not afraid before?

    Be specific in explaining your answer.

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