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Yeah, to make the salaries match. If Kawhi resigns with Toronto, it probably goes down as one of the worst trades in NBA history. Thankfully, he won't.
Not sure if serious, my dude. But RC had to s out 5mil for the right to toss Masai and Dennis' salad tbh.
Yeah, to make the salaries match. If Kawhi resigns with Toronto, it probably goes down as one of the worst trades in NBA history. Thankfully, he won't.
That avatar is just hilarious. Keep it.
Might be able to obtain one during the Wizard's inevitable fire sale.
with the lack of size and physicality in the wings (specifically in sf) patfo should have signed Shabazz
Butler, Beal, Oubre, and Porter all potentially for sale. Any one of then would be nice. I could see all them staying put until trade deadline except Butlee though. We shall see.
Posters here focus on Porter, but I would rather try for Oubre. He would be much cheaper, with great potential.
i agree
I think you mean Troy Brown since there isn't anyone named Butler currently on the Wizards.
I doubt they'd offload someone on a rookie scale deal when they have Oubre (impending free agent) and Porter making or going to make a lot more.
I was talking about Jimmy Butler. Most of those names are on the Wizards but I was just speaking to the overall number of quality SFs that were basically on sale right now.
Butler may be "for sale" right now, but not "on sale" or he wouldn't still be in Minny.
Still the closer it gets to the trade deadline the likely a something might get done at a lower price. Rockets is the only significant offer i've heard and those are just draft picks spread out over many years. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Market is softening for Butler I think. Not many teams want him unless they become contenders (he is older and costs a lot of money) and the rebuilding teams don't want to give up their young talent and picks.
No doubt Minny agrees that the market is soft. You failed to mention that, besides his contract, his antics have depressed his market value plenty. All moot as far as the Spurs are concerned; pretty sure he is a pariah to Pop.
he's an IG baller so definitely not PATFO's type. If anyone could be had that the Spurs are likelier to covet it would be Porter or Markieff.
You think PATFO could get over the Morris brothers' past?
Maybe. I think he is overrated as a superstar. He is solid in every facet but not transcendent. I think Derozan and him are on similar levels because Derozan just has an it factor with him even though Butler has more tools. What helps is Butler md Detrozan are good friends. It probably won’t happen but it’s a small possibility
If we had to do a same # number of players swap for OPJ, what would it be? Mills/Gasol/pick for OPJ/Satoransky?
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Unless Poetl pulls his head out of his ass or LaMarcus' legs look 5 years younger; trading away Gasol would create a huge hole at center. Don't get me wrong, Porter (although over paid) would be a solid third/fourth wheel (once DeJounte returns next season) and 3-and-D wing the team desperately needs.
Gasol is playing well and he works well with LMA on offense. Look how LMA couldn't get going without Gasol feeding him gimmies against the Heat. Pop playing Gasol in the second unit and on lower minutes is really the perfect role and Gasol is now one of the best bigs off the bench in the league. The issue is his 16mil p/y contract.
Every time the Spurs lose, I get to bump this thread.
Alternate Universe Time:
Let's say the Spurs did have a deal on the table for Kemba that did not involve Leonard or Green (I do think Danny was a necessary part of any Walker trade, but you never know). Let's also say that Philly was willing to do Saric, Covington and 10th for Leonard (very likely). With those assumptions fixed, let's consider the following scenario:
-- Trade Leonard to Philly for 10, Saric and Covington
-- Trade 10, Mills and Murray to Charlotte for Kemba
-- Draft Walker and Metu just like in real life
-- Re-sign Gay, Anderson and Parker (all other free agents from the team let go)
-- Sign Belinelli, Cunningham and Milutinov ($10M/3)
-- Ginobili still retires
That scenario leads to the following roster:
PG: Walker, Parker, White
SG: Green, Belinelli, Walker
SF: Covington, Gay, Cunningham
PF: Anderson, Saric, Metu
C: Aldridge, Gasol, Milutinov
That roster would actually be well under the tax threshold and could afford to bring back every player from the rotation other than Gasol provided Pau was waived and stretched. They'd even have left enough to sign an LLE player or to re-sign Cunningham. If guys are willing to give a bit back (this supposes Kemba getting a full max, so there's room for guys to give up a couple million here or there), they'd even have enough to try to work something out with Gasol to keep him for a final year. It's a sustainable roster is the point I'm making here. They'd be able to mix and match under the tax for four or five years without trouble. With guys like Walker and Metu on the roster and with the team having all their future picks, they should be able to maintain a pipeline of talent, off-setting role-players they have to let walk in the future.
The real question, though, is how viable that roster would be against elite teams. I don't doubt that the team would have a top defense with three elite defenders in addition to a lack of a good deal of their liabilities. They could also have an elite bench if the second unit gelled correctly. A lot of passing, decent shooting and some nice one-on-one scoring ability. They wouldn't have any more star power than they do now, however; though they would have the contracts and assets left over to make a bid for a third star if one were available on trade market. Failing that, I'd see their ceiling as WCF team that would need a Warriors injury to win a le. They'd be really dependent on Aldridge and Walker consistently playing well, and as this year is showing, that can't be counted on for the latter. We'll see if Kemba can keep up his tear for the rest of the season.
Saric would start over Anderson and Gay would be the nominal backup PF.
Of course that team is much better than the garbage one they've put together because it actually makes sense (other than the top 4 forwards and Gasol all probably being unhappy with their minutes). They'd still lack a secondary play maker in the starting lineup, but they'd be loaded with valuable archetypes (elite pull up 3-point shooting primary ball handler, multiple 3 and D wings, play making PF's) and depth.
As I've said countless times though, even going the route they did, had they just not signed Belinelli, instead signed more of a 3 and D type (Robinson, Ennis, Graham, etc.), while insisting that the Raptors take Gasol instead of Green, they could have somewhat salvaged their current predicament.
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