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    There was a good thread on Reddit recently, which really should have stayed longer. The league now all plays very similarly. Back in the early 2000s, how the Spurs played compared to the Lakers compared to the Suns compared to Mavs compared to the Kings were just different. It was a battle of who could play their style the most. It was fascinating to see how the Spurs could slow down the Suns, or how to handle Dirks midrange game. Even the east was fun with how the 76ers were just a bunch of defenders with AI as their sole offense. Or how Kidd would run and gun. Compared to Pistons which was just slow down D-troit Basketball.

    Now it's just about finding the most talent, hence why teams like the Rockets have gone all in. It's about going with the most allstars you can get. Run up the floor, shoot 3's and switch of defense. Team with the most talent wins. The results are just boring. There isn't a chess match anymore. It's not even about matchups.
    That has nothing to do with the era or a change in philosophy, it's simply because the Warriors exist..everything is based on beating them, nothing else matters, nobody else is in the same universe..

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    Although true. This is why i don't see trying to get 3 allstars on max contract is sustainable. The rule changes and how much is protected shooters, has resulted in this run and gun, switch D and 3 point shot is similar throughout.

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    Warriors could very well lose Durant or Klay soon, it'll be interesting to see how much things change around the league if they break up..

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    13/32 from 3pt line in Miami and Spurs score 88 points and lose against the Dragic-Wade-Waiters-Johson-less Heat.

    As I said previously, lack of points in the paint is more concerning to me. Spurs don't need Aldridge and DeRozan just jumpshooting instead of finishing at the rim and getting fouled. Gay and Gasol were really missed in this area. DeJounte Murray's inside aggression is missed as much as his defense. Any contribution from any other player in this area will be very useful.

    Want to shoot more threes regardless the shoots are coming from a balanced offense or not? InMiami you had an example of what will happen. A 40%3pt FG with 32 attempts is pretty good, isn't it? It doesn't mean a thing by itself, though.

    The offensive juggernaut trio on Hassan Whiteside, J Winslow and Wayne Ellington having season highs in scoring and a 50%FG and yesterday's Miami Heat team turning the ball only 13 times says much more. Add to this the best offensive performance of the season from the Orlando Magic on their visit to San Antonio.

    Forget about the 3pts. This Spurs team can't beat anybody without playing defense.

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    What does it matter if those 3's those teams are shooting more if they are not making them... SPURS may shoot less but they make a higher % than most of those teams above them... Look at those teams above them, do all of them have a better record than the SPURS currently, I havent seen the standings but i am willing to bet SPURS have a better record than most of them... So there is that!!
    It matters a lot. Going 9-24 is all well and good but other teams are taking significantly more 3s and hitting them at only a slightly lower rates.

    The days of the Spurs being able to clamp down and limit the number of opponents 3s are over, so opponents are more likely to get off 30+ 3s against us.

    There is a level of variance that taking a lot of 3s adds; most teams probably won't shoot worse than 30% during a bad game and a median outcome is probably around 35-38% but there are going to be games where a team might go, say 14-31 or 16-36.

    Since the Spurs are taking so few 3s the variance is much smaller; where they could shoot poorly and end up with only 7 or 8 3s made or shoot it great and hit 10 or 11. Instead the Spurs are taking a ton of mid range shots that are very inefficient, especially in today's NBA . It's just bad strategy.

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    Wow... So many ppl ok with mediocrity

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    Wow... So many ppl ok with mediocrity
    Best to let others have a turn and all that.

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    It matters a lot. Going 9-24 is all well and good but other teams are taking significantly more 3s and hitting them at only a slightly lower rates.

    The days of the Spurs being able to clamp down and limit the number of opponents 3s are over, so opponents are more likely to get off 30+ 3s against us.

    There is a level of variance that taking a lot of 3s adds; most teams probably won't shoot worse than 30% during a bad game and a median outcome is probably around 35-38% but there are going to be games where a team might go, say 14-31 or 16-36.

    Since the Spurs are taking so few 3s the variance is much smaller; where they could shoot poorly and end up with only 7 or 8 3s made or shoot it great and hit 10 or 11. Instead the Spurs are taking a ton of mid range shots that are very inefficient, especially in today's NBA . It's just bad strategy.
    This will happen and is a result of who we have as our primary scorers are 2 of the best Mid range shooters in the game. But maybe we make a trade our 2 1st rds for Jimmy B... he would help in the 3&D..

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    This will happen and is a result of who we have as our primary scorers are 2 of the best Mid range shooters in the game. But maybe we make a trade our 2 1st rds for Jimmy B... he would help in the 3&D..
    I don't think Butler would fit with DeRozen offensively. They are both ball dominant and neither are necessarily lethal off ball. Then there is Aldridge who would have fewer touches to go along with his inefficient start to the season. It would be a talent play but it has plenty of risk.

    Having Forbes, White, DeRozen, Gay, and Aldridge as the SL would help considering White is a better shooter than Cunningham but the Spurs would still likely remaining near the bottom of the league in attempts

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    Having Forbes, White, DeRozen, Gay, and Aldridge as the SL would help...
    ...the team to tank, no question about it.

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    Awesome thread.

    10/10

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    Miami exposed the Spurs offense. Throw in an athletic big that can threaten DeRozan and Aldridge and Spurs can't score.

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