Alabama vs Raiders

[JohnnyD]

Hmmmmm? Stold this.


I'd be willing to bet money that Alabama could beat the best team in the CFL. Using the same argument that everyone uses to say Bama could never beat the worst NFL team because the NFL team has an entire roster of NFL caliber players. Alabama has a roster almost entirely made up of NFL caliber players, even the best team has a roster made up of no NFL caliber players, because if they did they'd go to the NFL.Look at the grey cup champs the Toronto Argonauts. You think Ricky Ray of Sac state is going to beat Bamas D? His backup is Bethel Mcloud Thompson and his backup is john Franklin. Their RB is James Wilder, he won the rookie award. Their MVP was ricky ray. Their best defensive player was bear woods of troy. Best special teams player was Martese Jackson of FAU. Their coach is Mark Trestman who got ed up when he tried to bring his coaching to the Bears. Treatman is considered one of the GOAT CFL coaches.

It would be an absolute slaughter, not even close. Bama would run them off the field. Seriously look up the rosters of the best CFL teams. Bama has a bunch of future NFL players with NFL talent. Nick Saban is better than Mark Trestman.

In a QB battle between Tua and Ricky Ray I'm taking Tua. The RB battle is a push because James Wilder was actually good, but only a push if you only compare 1:1 on rosters. Bamas entire RB depth swings RB battle heavily in their favor. Defense is strongly in bamas favor, they'd feast on that pass happy bull like they feast on NFL talent calibre QBs pass happy bull in CFB. Special teams is a push because Canadian rules are weird with kickers and Bama usually sucks with kickers.
Still, it wouldn't even be close

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Every season Bama gives the NFL how many players? How many NFLers in the CFL?

Every season the NFL drafts players based on what they did vs MAC, HBCU, BigWest, Conference USA, compe ion. Guys who couldn't have played at Alabama. Alabama players are judged vs SEC opposition. See how it goes?

Put anyone that starts for Alabama on a UTEP, UNLV, Grambling, Houston, BYU team, there they would rule.

[Darth_Pelican]

Anyone who thinks that a college football team could hang with an NFL team simply doesn’t understand football (I’m not talking about 1940’s nfl vs. 2018 college; no one gives a about that). NFL coaches would easily expose mismatches on the field and win 10 plays out of 10. An NFL offense would score on every 2-3 plays that they run against the #1 college team in the country. If they don’t, then that coach should be fired immediately. And an NFL defense vs a College offense would just be embarrassing as far as how much they’d dominate every play. Avante is ing stupid to think this is even debatable.

[Blake]

Hmmmmm? Stold this.


I'd be willing to bet money that Alabama could beat the best team in the CFL. Using the same argument that everyone uses to say Bama could never beat the worst NFL team because the NFL team has an entire roster of NFL caliber players. Alabama has a roster almost entirely made up of NFL caliber players, even the best team has a roster made up of no NFL caliber players, because if they did they'd go to the NFL.Look at the grey cup champs the Toronto Argonauts. You think Ricky Ray of Sac state is going to beat Bamas D? His backup is Bethel Mcloud Thompson and his backup is john Franklin. Their RB is James Wilder, he won the rookie award. Their MVP was ricky ray. Their best defensive player was bear woods of troy. Best special teams player was Martese Jackson of FAU. Their coach is Mark Trestman who got ed up when he tried to bring his coaching to the Bears. Treatman is considered one of the GOAT CFL coaches.

It would be an absolute slaughter, not even close. Bama would run them off the field. Seriously look up the rosters of the best CFL teams. Bama has a bunch of future NFL players with NFL talent. Nick Saban is better than Mark Trestman.

In a QB battle between Tua and Ricky Ray I'm taking Tua. The RB battle is a push because James Wilder was actually good, but only a push if you only compare 1:1 on rosters. Bamas entire RB depth swings RB battle heavily in their favor. Defense is strongly in bamas favor, they'd feast on that pass happy bull like they feast on NFL talent calibre QBs pass happy bull in CFB. Special teams is a push because Canadian rules are weird with kickers and Bama usually sucks with kickers.
Still, it wouldn't even be close

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Every season Bama gives the NFL how many players? How many NFLers in the CFL?

Every season the NFL drafts players based on what they did vs MAC, HBCU, BigWest, Conference USA, compe ion. Guys who couldn't have played at Alabama. Alabama players are judged vs SEC opposition. See how it goes?

Put anyone that starts for Alabama on a UTEP, UNLV, Grambling, Houston, BYU team, there they would rule.

Stupid.

[JohnnyD]

Anyone who thinks that a college football team could hang with an NFL team simply doesn’t understand football (I’m not talking about 1940’s nfl vs. 2018 college; no one gives a about that). NFL coaches would easily expose mismatches on the field and win 10 plays out of 10. An NFL offense would score on every 2-3 plays that they run against the #1 college team in the country. If they don’t, then that coach should be fired immediately. And an NFL defense vs a College offense would just be embarrassing as far as how much they’d dominate every play. Avante is ing stupid to think this is even debatable.

I think can hang with you or anyone else when it when it comes to understanding football. And 1940's?, try the 1975 Steelers 21 College kids 14.

And I'm not alone on this, it's been talked about by others many times. Nick Saban vs Hue Jackson? You have any idea at all how many players on an NFL team would have sat on an Alabama bench?

Every NFL season we see guys come in as rookies and take right off, no problems at all. Some actually have better rookie seasons than they did senior seasons.

YES, Alabama would get crushed by any good NFL team but I have never talked about that, this is Alabama vs a low level uninspired, lackluster NFL team going nowhere like the 2018 Raiders, those 2017 Browns.

Back in the day it was.....there is noway in an AFL team (NFL rejects) could ever compete vs an NFL team. So what happened?

Look at small college players never even recruited by power five conferences once they start competing vs the big guys in the NFL. No problems. How many undrafted players like Adam Thelien become stars?

Not understanding football is thinking a dead totally dead pro team like these2018 Raiders could hang with a jacked up totally stoked Nick Saban team.

[JohnnyD]

Stupid.

No not at all and if ya knew the CFL (you don't) you'd know that.

Alabama has more team speed than any CFL team. Bama's big guys on a whole other level. Many of them are NFL bound, not so with the CFLers.

[Blake]

Alabama has more team speed than any CFL team.

[JohnnyD]

Come on guy it's very obvious you have no idea at all who is actually on any of those teams. There is a reason the CFLers are not NFLers you do get that, right?

Are you even aware of the fact only 20 non Canadians can be on CFL rosters, right? Now give me the name of one stud college football team from Canada where the other half of the team came from.

Give me the name of that stud NFLer from a Canadian school, the CFL is made up of 50% of those players.

[Blake]

There are guys on Calgary's roster that have been playing pro ball twice as long as any kid has been at bama. They'd beat the out of them.

You're ing re ed.

[JohnnyD]

There are guys on Calgary's roster that have been playing pro ball twice as long as any kid has been at bama. They'd beat the out of them.

You're ing re ed.

Here is the CFL's most valuable player from 2017.

Mike Reilly (born January 25, 1985) is a Canadian football quarterback for the Edmonton Eskimos of the Canadian Football League (CFL). He was the starting quarterback for the Eskimos when they won the 103rd Grey Cup and was named the Grey Cup Most Valuable Player. He was originally signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers as an undrafted free agent in 2009. He played college football at Central Washington. He was named the CFL's Most Outstanding Player of 2017.

Mike Reilly????

Dude, are you actually telling me you have never noticed what NFL rookies have done with..0...NFL experience? Come on guy use your head.

Don Woods was a QB at New Mexico, once he became a Charger they switched him to RB, all he did was have a 1000 yard season, think about that. No experience at RB vs grown ass men.....so what.


News to you.

It's notable that CIS still produces the majority of Canadian players, though, with 69.8 per cent of national players coming from the Canadian university ranks. That's a combination of the percentages we've seen in the draft recently; CIS produced 73.3 per cent of the draftees in 2013, but just 53.3 per cent in 2012. (2014, where 90.8 per cent of the picks were from CIS, can be largely discounted thanks to changing eligibilty rules that meant the draft pool was mostly just CIS players.) The 2013 mark is closer to the norm, but this study suggests that there's plenty of Canadian talent coming to the CFL from outside CIS. Here's a graph Fulton did illustrating that, taking a look at the national players in the CFL and where they come from:
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It's also notable to see how the CIS conferences break down. Yes, Ontario produces the most players in raw totals, but OUA has 11 football schools, so they're producing 4.9 CFL players per school. By contrast, six-team Canada West has 8.1, the six-team Quebec conference has 7.7, and the four-team Atlantic conference has 6.5. This gets even more interesting when it's broken down by individual CIS school. Here's Fulton's analysis of that:



Now think of what Alabama would do to any Canadian school.

NFL rejects and what school?...is the CFL guy, ok? That is why you can't name any of the players, they are nobody's.

Best player in the CFL an undrafted QB from Central Washington who got cut by the NFL.

Come on guy know what you;re trying to talk about, ok?

[JohnnyD]

CFL vs NFL


From August 1950 through August 1961, teams from the NFL and CFL played six times during the NFL preseason, in Canada. (For the Canadian teams, the games were exhibitions played during the CFL regular season.)


It started in 1950, when the Giants beat the Rough Riders in Ottawa, 27-6. The following year, the Giants thumped the same team in the same town, 41-18.


The series resumed eight years later, when the Chicago Cardinals clobbered the Argonauts, 55-26, in Toronto. In 1960, the Steelers slammed the Argonauts in Toronto, 43-16.


The exercise ended the following year, with a pair of contests played three days apart. On August 2 in Toronto, the Cardinals (which had since moved to St. Louis) cold- ed the Argonauts, 36-7. On August 5, the Bears bested the Alouettes in Montreal, 34-16.


The college All Stars were more compe ive vs the NFL Champs.

The NFL had Jim Brown, while the CFL had George Reed, he is still considered the greatest CFLer ever. He was out of Washington State, in his three season career there he never averaged over 3.9 a carry, and this is the first time anyone here has ever heard of him.





He ran wild in the CFL, yet a 3.9 average in the Pac10.

Mike Pringle the all time CFL rushing king.


Michael A. Pringle (born October 1, 1967) is an American former professional gridiron football player. A running back, he had a successful career in the Canadian Football League (CFL), during which he set or tied almost every significant league records for the position. He played college football for the California State University, Fullerton ans and was twice signed by National Football League (NFL) teams, though he never played a game in the NFL.


The CFL is a joke.

Geroy Simon is the all time CFL leader in yards gained over 16, 000 as a WR. He spent 1997 on the Steelers practice squad before being let go. Played at Maryland.


This kid was from nearby Tulare Union, while there he set Cali State records, some of his runs (saw him many times) right there with Barry Sanders/Gale Sayers. He had a great UNLV career but couldn't make an NFL team.



His first CFL game vs grown ass men, ha! Where was his experience?

[JohnnyD]

No experience vs grown ass men. Just a know nothing rookie.




He did the same thing at Miami, the NFL nothing different at all.

Gale Sayers scored 22 TD's his rookie season without NFL experience. yep, vs grown ass men.

Eric erson over 1800 yards rushing as a rookie. How is that possible with no experience vs grown ass men?



No NFL experience kicking grown men ass.

All this crap about grown men and experience is a load of bull. Young legs, no NFL wear and tear is a real big deal. There are no NFLers who could improve on their combine 40 time.

Randy Moss did what as a rookie? Yep, he blew right by all those experienced grown ass men.





Moss left Marshall with a 19.0 yard average per catch, what was his NFL average per catch that rookie season......19.0 yards.

Fresh out of college Devin Hester, Gale Sayers, Lawrence Taylor, Randy Moss totally dominated far more experienced grown ass men. And if we took those guys and all the other stud rookies and formed a team they would kick grown experienced men ass.

[JohnnyD]

Kid with no NFL experience at all vs grown ass men with NFL experience.




So cool this ridiculous grown men with experience vs kids with none, ok? As we can see it means...0.





How did Big Ben and Russell Wilson do as rookie QB's?

Here we have just a kid with no NFL experience vs grown ass men with experience.



He left Pitt with a career 57.6 comp %, his NFL rookie season....58.4.

[Ghazi]

saw this on ESPN:

Per the SuperBook at the Westgate Las Vegas, the Buffalo Bills would be 28.5-point favorites over the Alabama Crimson Tide on a neutral field.

[JohnnyD]

saw this on ESPN:

Per the SuperBook at the Westgate Las Vegas, the Buffalo Bills would be 28.5-point favorites over the Alabama Crimson Tide on a neutral field.

I already mentioned that, and my respect for those guys but, they also had UNLV a 45.5 fav vs Howard an HBCU school, final score Howard 43 UNLV 40. They had the NFL Colts 18 point fav vs those Joe Namath AFL Jets, how did that go?

The Billls have beaten the Vikings and ans and would beat these Raiders. The 2018 Raiders aren't getting up for nobody, there is no spark, no nothing. Think of how jacked/stoked Saban would have his Crimson Tide, the Raiders couldn't match that intensity and it's real obvious.

Appalachian State 34, No. 5 Michigan 32
Line: Michigan -33*

[JohnnyD]

Bottom line.

The 2018 Alabama team is as good a college team as we have seen, they have some serious talent. The 2018 Raider team is a joke, a bad one. They are all of a sudden going to get up and show some intensity, no they aren't. YES....any decent NFL team would destroy Alabama, just not a weak, hurry up and get this over Raider team. And not so sure that 0-16 Browns team does any better.

Alabama could hang with any CFL team, anyone not seeing that knows nothing about CFL football. Very few CFLers could have played at Alabama. And half a CFL roster is made up of Canadians, who can name one, yep,ya can't. And on average the CFLers are smaller than NFLers, we don't see the same level of size with speed. There are no Julio Jones or Derrick Henry's playing CFL football.

Think what an All Time Alabama team would do to an All time CFL team ,it would get ugly.

Like I mentioned, all time CFL rushing king an NFL reject, 2017 MVP an NFL reject, all time yardage WR king, an NFL reject. The CFL LEGEND...couldn't average 4.0 yards a carry in college.


This is not the CFL.

Alabama Football Finishes with a Record 12 Players Selected in 2018 NFL Draft

[JohnnyD]

Mike Tyson was how old when he was knocking out all those grown ass men?



Huge grown ass man vs some 19 year old kid.





While at Tennessee Christain Coleman (just a college kid) ran a 4.1 40, no grown ass man is remotely close to that.




Some time after that he would break the WR in the 60, 6.34. Former HS footballer. He also beat the great Usain Bolt, a grown ass man.

So don't tell me about grown ass men, or experience. You are never more hungry than you are as a young man trying to make it work, old guys get stagnate and the flame is starting to dim.

Something that gets ignored is young guys are simply in better shape, they don't tucker out as easily. a big 300 pounder at 32 isn't who he was at 23-25 cardio wise.

[Blake]

Stupid posts.

[Clipper Nation]

If you think any college team would even keep it within 50 against any NFL team, you are re ed.

/thread

[JohnnyD]

If you think any college team would even keep it within 50 against any NFL team, you are re ed.

/thread

Where are you getting any college team vs any NFL team?

Talking 2018 Alabama vs 2018 Oakland Raiders.

A team of college kids under Nick Saban with young legs all full of vigor vs a bunch of malcontents under Jon Gruden counting the days until this season is over.

Come on guy.

[JohnnyD]

Stupid posts.

A stupid post is you talking a team full of Canadians in CFL beating Alabama.

[JohnnyD]

Look at what Barkley, Chubb, Aaron Jones are doing vs NFL defenses, they are doing the same things they did in college.

Kareem Hunt led the NFL in rushing last season as a rookie out of.....Toledo. How is that possible vs grown ass men?

It's not boys vs men, it's young leg/still in great shape athletes vs older, NFL wear and tear athletes.

The Niners started a kid who had never played in an NFL game at QB vs the Raiders, he torched them, that 's how bad they really are.

[Stan]

Bottom line.

The 2018 Alabama team is as good a college team as we have seen, they have some serious talent. The 2018 Raider team is a joke, a bad one. They are all of a sudden going to get up and show some intensity, no they aren't. YES....any decent NFL team would destroy Alabama, just not a weak, hurry up and get this over Raider team. And not so sure that 0-16 Browns team does any better.

Alabama could hang with any CFL team, anyone not seeing that knows nothing about CFL football. Very few CFLers could have played at Alabama. And half a CFL roster is made up of Canadians, who can name one, yep,ya can't. And on average the CFLers are smaller than NFLers, we don't see the same level of size with speed. There are no Julio Jones or Derrick Henry's playing CFL football.

Think what an All Time Alabama team would do to an All time CFL team ,it would get ugly.

Like I mentioned, all time CFL rushing king an NFL reject, 2017 MVP an NFL reject, all time yardage WR king, an NFL reject. The CFL LEGEND...couldn't average 4.0 yards a carry in college.


This is not the CFL.

Alabama Football Finishes with a Record 12 Players Selected in 2018 NFL Draft

Alabama got beat by one of the CFL’s worst quarterbacks.

[JohnnyD]

Alabama got beat by one of the CFL’s worst quarterbacks.

And how many CFLers would Alabama bother to recruit?

We don't find the same size/speed combo in the CFL like we find in the SEC.

[JohnnyD]

Alabama 32 Cards 17

[Blake]