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    If you want to tank the year then yes take the deal. Worst deal I've ever heard of tbh
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    and... If you get rid of Aldridge then the double-teams switch over to DD then that's a wrap. At some point Teams may start double teaming DD which should unleash LA if he's smart. Leave the team the way it is.
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    LOL Woj has been kind of the no respect for the Spurs guy for a while now it seems. It’s low key, but it’s there. This would be like saying SA is calling POR since Lillard and Dame don’t fit well.

    SA is a better team than POR so if LMA/DeRozan don’t fit, then what does that say about Dame/CJ?

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    The Spurs have up until the trade deadline to see whats up anyways. They made the DeRozan trade very specifically because they wanted to win now and nothing has changed that mentality.

    If they really suck going into ASB then maybe they can field calls but teams will have to offer something up as both LMA and DeRozan have LEGIT value and this is not a Kawhi situation.

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    LOL Woj has been kind of the no respect for the Spurs guy for a while now it seems. It’s low key, but it’s there. This would be like saying SA is calling POR since Lillard and Dame don’t fit well.

    SA is a better team than POR so if LMA/DeRozan don’t fit, then what does that say about Dame/CJ?
    Portland has a better record and killed us this season. Too soon to say SA is better than Portland.

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    LOL Woj has been kind of the no respect for the Spurs guy for a while now it seems. It’s low key, but it’s there. This would be like saying SA is calling POR since Lillard and Dame don’t fit well.

    SA is a better team than POR so if LMA/DeRozan don’t fit, then what does that say about Dame/CJ?
    Emmh, what?

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    Their styles do mesh well, so Woj can get down there with Lowe and suck a .
    Well...there is that.

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    Spurs are missing guys who change the picture and yes, I believe we will see SA be better than POR

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    Spurs are missing guys who change the picture and yes, I believe we will see SA be better than POR
    No, we won't. At least not this season. Not even close.

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    Today's game will not be the game that the NBA will have for ever, and ever. A combo of LMA and DDR might be the combo that changes that. It is a far better strategy then trying to out Warrior the Warriors. In truth, the Spurs are one dynamic player away from competing for it all. I really like what Pop is doing in getting everyone involved like he did with the beautiful game, and I usually am a Pop critic.
    This narrative needs to die... We were passing the ball better in 2016...LMA was the only one unhappy because he wasn't the focus

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    Woj planting now for BSPN to try and steal all the small market teams star players. Bet the next “rumor” he hears is that the Lakers want him

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    just to show you how re ed your take is. And you're not even considering the fact that LaMarcus is the one who took over Duncan's role as the main rim protector. Our defense turns to a lay up line without him. He is up there with Gobert when it comes to rim protection, even stat wise. Should be NBA All-Defensive every year tbh. Besides that him and DeRozan mesh very well and he's a match up nightmare for opponents. No way I'd trade him unless I get AD back or can get Porzingis
    2/3 out of those players their team at best second round exit. And they are also better players. And LA is even worst than 2/3 of the players you mentioned. Why do you think he was selected last at All - Star game, no one wants to play with him. Kawhi had to run to Toronto to avoid him.

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    Woj went into Lowe's podcast and said that teams around the NBA are calling the spurs to see if DeMar or LaMarcus are available, **since their styles don't mesh very well** as he said.

    Say Portland calls and offers Nurkić and Al-Farouq Aminu? Would you say yes? I know Nurkić can't be traded until Jan 15th, but it's still possible to happen. The Blazers might think that they have a legit shot to compete with the Warriors if HOU is as bad as it looks and if they were to bring LaMarcus in and pair him with Damian and CJ. I mean they have desperately tried to bring someone in unsuccessfuly because who wants to live in Oregon, but we do know that LaMarcus and Damian have discussed that possibility. So who says they don't call? If I was them, I would.

    And I say take it.

    Nurkić can be for us what Jakob is/was supposed to be. I can easily see him as an 18/10 guy in Pops system (Him and LA have similar per36min numbers!). I imagine him as a healthier better version of Tiago who is not as good defensivey yet, but is already a more complete offensive player. And Aminu will be that much needed 3 and D guy that can strech the floor for DeMar and improve our defense. Nurkić is also in a very friendly contract at 10mi a year. And with Gasol coming off the books, we will have an opportunity to sign a free agend next season while retaining Rudy Gay and our core. And if don't do so well this year, we could use another 18th draft pick! That and toronto's can be traded for an 11th to 15th draft pick in next's year strong draft. Either way, it's a win-win for us. We can still make the playoffs without LA, depending how well Nurcic, Aminu, Lonnie and White play for us.
    Nevermind, I don't think Portland would go for it.

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    Nevermind, I don't think Portland would go for it.
    Not the way LaMarcus is playing recently.

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    LaMarcus was terrible tonight but it's not exactly like our guards were doing him a favor. We seem off since Derrick White rejoined the team...it's like we had to readjust to him after the groove we were in Forbes is garbage and doesn't really have a high ceiling. This road trip is brutal and we're out of sync at the moment.

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    LMA getting double digit rebounds at 33 could be a positive sign that he did not decline but is just mentally not there. Or it could just mean that the entire team sucks at rebounding.

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    If you want to tank the year then yes take the deal. Worst deal I've ever heard of tbh
    We are not good enough to get past round right now and yes at some point LaMarcus will get in shape, but we lack perimeter defense. There is nothing LA can do to fix that, so our offense will get better yes, but our defense will not. We could use some one like Aminou.

    If you think about it, if we can use our cap space not having to pay LaMarcus and Pau, we can sign Gay and Aminu long term. I like what Gay brings to the team and Aminu could be the new Danny Green but a bit bigger and more athletic. And Nurkic is playing better than LaMarcus right now and is younger and does not need the ball to score and is a more willing passer. And if that's not enought, we will have cap space to sing a free agent next summer. Maybe bring back Danny Green to mentor kids and play off the bench at the two. A huge improvement over Patty and Bryn, and let's be honest, Danny was the one that had to take a step back to let LaMarcus do his thing. He was the one player that his game suffered sinse LaMarcus joined the spurs. And if not Danny Green, then Maybe some one better. Ok, KD will never sing with us, but there are others. And we will have Lonnie is his second year and Dejounte back.

    If we trade LaMarcus, next season we can be contenders.

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    LaMarcus seemed to flourish last year when he was the focal point of the offense. That hasn't been quite the case this year with the offense not fully going through him. Hopefully he bounces back tomorrow night as the Spurs didn't shoot well tonight - but 6 points is garbage for 22 mil.

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    LMA getting double digit rebounds at 33 could be a positive sign that he did not decline but is just mentally not there. Or it could just mean that the entire team sucks at rebounding.
    Rudy is very important for us this year, I believe we lost all (or most) of the games he did not play. He has been huge rebounding the ball for us this year. We miss him and of course we miss Dejounte in that regard. Let's Lonnie can play solid minutes, because Davis and Belli suck at rebounding.

    LA is solid for us deffensively, and is one of our better defenders, but as we wintess this season; you can't be a good defensive team when LaMarcus is one of your better defenders. And offensively he plain sucks.

    And even hmm, Nurkic, is a better players than him this year.

    .6 Defensive Win Shares versus .5 DWS, and a much higher True Shooting Percentage, almost 10 points, and even better Total Rebound Percentage 21% to 15% !!!! Also, he has more steals and approximatelly the same assists.

    Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 LaMarcus Aldridge 2018-19 33 12 425 17.6 .491 .025 .304 10.7 21.3 15.8 12.2 0.5 2.9 9.4 26.2 0.2 0.5 0.8 .086 -2.3 0.7 -1.6 0.0
    2 Jusuf Nurkic 2018-19 24 13 324 24.6 .583 .102 .367 17.1 24.4 21.0 12.2 1.2 3.1 14.9 26.1 0.8 0.6 1.5 .220 2.6 2.6 5.2 0.6


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    LaMarcus seemed to flourish last year when he was the focal point of the offense. That hasn't been quite the case this year with the offense not fully going through him. Hopefully he bounces back tomorrow night as the Spurs didn't shoot well tonight - but 6 points is garbage for 22 mil.
    Yes it doesn't look good when Nurkic is putting 15+ in both points and rebounding recently!

    Also, last year LaMarcus was in shapte. That's the main reason he missed shots that he usually makes. But man, that shows lack of commitment. And that's the main reason, I want him out of here.

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    Rudy is very important for us this year, I believe we lost all (or most) of the games he did not play. He has been huge rebounding the ball for us this year. We miss him and of course we miss Dejounte in that regard. Let's Lonnie can play solid minutes, because Davis and Belli suck at rebounding.

    LA is solid for us deffensively, and is one of our better defenders, but as we wintess this season; you can't be a good defensive team when LaMarcus is one of your better defenders. And offensively he plain sucks.

    And even hmm, Nurkic, is a better players than him this year.

    .6 Defensive Win Shares versus .5 DWS, and a much higher True Shooting Percentage, almost 10 points, and even better Total Rebound Percentage 21% to 15% !!!! Also, he has more steals and approximatelly the same assists.

    Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 LaMarcus Aldridge 2018-19 33 12 425 17.6 .491 .025 .304 10.7 21.3 15.8 12.2 0.5 2.9 9.4 26.2 0.2 0.5 0.8 .086 -2.3 0.7 -1.6 0.0
    2 Jusuf Nurkic 2018-19 24 13 324 24.6 .583 .102 .367 17.1 24.4 21.0 12.2 1.2 3.1 14.9 26.1 0.8 0.6 1.5 .220 2.6 2.6 5.2 0.6


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    Jusuf Nurkic is a very good 4th option. His stats wouldn't look so good if he was 1A 1B on offense.

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    Sure, but you don't take THAT deal. Stop wanting to settle on garbage. We've had to settle enough with the Kawhi trade, Mill/Gasol fiasco, and awful draft picks lately.
    Kyle was solid for us last year and the main reason we had the defense we had. Him and Dejounte. Speaking of Dejounte, that's another solid draft pick for us, same goes for Derrick White and especially for Lonnie White, he might be the best young player we have. I can easily see him being that type of defender, and even better than those two and can also make the three point shot.

    You are delousinal if you think our draft picks are awful.

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    This trade is terrible and I'm someone people griefed on for wanting to trade Kawhi for Harris/Harrell and both the Clippers' lottery picks.
    Much better deal in hind sight, lol

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    Much better deal in hind sight, lol
    Which, the Toronto trade we made or my hypothetical one?

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