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They can include the Raptors pick for example. You figure.
George Hill was pop’s human viagra and I thought Parker world be a spur for life no matter his play, so there’s a chance, but agree an offseason trade is more likely
They can include the Raptors pick for example. You figure.
Some other players on the Wiz roster.
Troy Brown Jr
Jeff Green
Mucus Morris
Devin Robinson
Jason Smith
I forgot... in terms of roleplayers, I also like satoransky.
I was about to say he’s versatile and he can play right?
I would trade either Aldridge or DeRozan for Beal, tbh. They can keep Wall though.
P/S: Yeah, I know the Wizards probably won't want any of those two back. Just saying that I would be more than willing to part with them.
Pop knew they couldn’t afford Hill and Parker following the next season. It was more about which one he wanted to keep. Spurs offered Parker a contract, he decided to play for the Bobcats. Not like they told him to get lost. This should be Pau’s last year with San Antonio. They’ll waive him in the offseason and pay the partial guarantee. Pau knows about it, all part of the plan.
It's not that Bertans or Forbes is untouchable; it's that they extend the length of time the team has to wait before making a deal. Right now, they still have to wait a month on Cun, Pon, Beli and Gay, and they have to wait two months on Forbes and Bertans. Usually fire sales don't go on for that long. Plus, as I said, future salary matters to the Wizards. I'm sure on paper they'd like Bertans more than Cunningham or Pondexter. But they likely aren't looking to go pay however much in taxes to make it happen.
You can protect picks, so there's nothing wrong with giving them up. Pau/Patty is a package, and it's not fair to blame PATFO for them not making moves if you expect them to get away with trades like that. A second-rounder is like putting an olive on top of that dung pile. If you don't see Porter as a legit investment in the future, then you don't make a move for him. Same with Oubre or really any trade where the team functions as a buyer. But if you do see a long-term piece to be had, you don't hesitate to give up a pick, in my opinion. So long as you protect it against, say a bottom-10 finish, you're more likely to get more from the player you acquire than the drafted player anyway. Porter was the third-overall pick; Oubre was 12th overall. You aren't likely to find guys like that just hanging around the bottom half of the draft.
I hope derozan mentions you in his suicide note
DeKobe?? No way for a ball chucker? DeStockton can facilitate more than any other Spurs guard in history that I can remember, and he can take it hard to the rim too. And he's loyal, so I really think DeMar is a Spurs lifer tbh
Oubre would be nice if we can come up with a decent package
Bradley Beal for patty,Gasol, pick
Jeff would be the only one that would interest, I do not think Spurs would have something that would interest Wiz for Porter
Aldridge and DeRozan for Beal and Otto Porter.
Would the Wizards do it? Would you, as Spurs fans, do it?
The Wizards would be getting the two best players in the trade. Maybe with a new look core of Wall, DeRozan and Aldridge they can re-try fighting on the East instead of going rebuild mode.
The Spurs would definitely be getting worse this season, but with Murray, Walker, White, Beal, Porter, Bertans and Poeltl you have a promising core looking forward, then if you can add one more piece like a Jimmy Butler in the offseason (not to mention even bigger pipedreams like Davis and Durant), you would have a team with a higher ceiling than a core of DeRozan and Aldridge can ever give us.
I'm sure Porter is out of reach. Beal and Wall, ditto. But maybe a player further down on the roster.
Gasol, Mills and the Raptors first round pick for Porter? I'd do that. , I'd be willing to sign off on including the Spurs pick instead of the Raptors pick as long as it's top 10 protected.
Porter's contract is a bit much but he's only 25, he's a 40% career three-point shooter, can play both forward positions, defends and has some upside since he's been stuck on a team that has never really had any chemistry to speak of since he's been in the league. You could get away with starting Gay, Porter and Aldridge up front in today's NBA.
My two cents on both teams: the only deal that makes sense is Mills+Pau + first round pick for Otto.
Washington: They do this because they are already bad and cant get much worse. They need to shed salary and this definitely does that. Gasol is only 6.5m guaranteed so this saves WAS 10M immediately next year while netting them another first round pick. On top of that, this also helps them stay somewhat compe ive right now which is what I think they want given the moves they made (Dwight, Jeff Green and the 3 big contracts). This allows them to do a lot more over the next two seasons and they could flip Mills next year too for a pick I believe.
SA: I would definitely do this if I were SA. Forgetting the fact that SA obviously wants to win now, everything with Otto lines up with their current core anyways and hes young enough still and fits a position of need.
Spurs won’t be real free agent players until 2021 anyways so all SA would be doing cap wise differently is having Otto instead of Pau/Mills for the same money.
Otto has a player option that he 99% will take, but even so, SA would have Demar, Lma & Otto all expiring the same season so this gives them 2 years to compete for more with an older core/big 3.
There really is no risk for SA in terms of flexiblity since even if you keep Pau/Mills and waive Pau next year, you aren’t a true free agent player anyways. Then in 2021, instead of being at 65M in salaries, you would be at 80M with Porter opting in vs having Mills still (and Pau being gone the year before contractually).
So you can still be a solid player there and worst case your big 3 fizzles and they are all off the books the following year as Mills would be.
TL/DR: In order to have Otto for the same money as Mills/Pau with the same virtual cap flexiblity over the next 2 years, the cost is a first round pick which is worth it since SA is trying to win now as evidenced by targeting a player like LMA/DeRozan even after the Kawhi sh*t.
That's a no brainer if you are the Spurs. The question is if the Wizards can't get more for Porter.
I'd be taking a really close look at the salary cap structure before I did that. You need some space for Murray and Gay. I would also try to loot Satoransky, who is decent (maybe add Bertans?).
Spurs don’t need to worry about Gay. In this scenario SA would be in no danger of not being able to keep Murray or White or Met or Lonnie since the last 3 all have cheap team options in the final year of LMA/DeRozan/Otto deals. Murray has a qualifying offer that year and SA would only be at about 80M in salaries (best case).
is there any scenario where SA could have Demar / Aldridge / Murray / Walker / Porter / Gay and space for an offer to Kris Midlleton?
Pretty unlikely but the best chance would be in 2021. At that point, if SA moved everyone they had control over except for the guys you mentioned, there might be room to get Mid in there (if you assume he doesn’t get a big raise). He would also have to opt-in to his 13M with MIL next season too obviously so that he actually makes it to free agency in 2021.
No way Almost-Bullets take Patty & Pau even if the pick is our 1st
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