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lol how do you think the stains in Central America got there in the first place, Fabbs?the *law*
How about taking the stains that run Honduras etc out so the caravan can go back and live in peace?
force? bare-handed force?
slaughter is what the US Army will deliver if ordered to deliver slaughter.
Killing unarmed non-whites is fundamental to imperial, brutality-sodden US govt policy.
The immigrants may be Catholics, but that's the wrong flavor of Christian, so fire away.
lol how do you think the stains in Central America got there in the first place, Fabbs?
How about taking the stains that run Honduras etc out so the caravan can go back and live in peace?
easy solution... don't try and break our laws by trying to come here illegally.
your incessant crying for those not citizens of this country is disgusting.
They used enough force to break into Mexico -- that, I can tell you.
And I don't buy for one second what you're saying. The military isn't going to slaughter the caravan even if ordered. The military knows better... It also know that media from around the world are at the border and will closely scrutinize its every action.
But tell me this Boutons... why aren't more caravan members claiming asylum in Mexico? Mexico is willing to hear their claims and has even offered work permits, schooling, and more.
Yeah, the troops probably won't be anywhere near the caravan and there is no way the commanders are going to change the ROE to include whatever Trump is fantasizing about. I don't even think the troops are armed.
probably because the Northern Triangle people know MX is as impoverished, murderous, corrupt, ty as their own countries
Slaughter, massacre doesn't have to be 100s, 10 max would qualify. Just a few mothers and kids up front would suffice
Yeah, I don't buy it. There isn't going to a slaughter of 10 or more... or probably any.
Reports are that the Haitian refugees from the earthquakes years ago who couldn't get into the US have gotten jobs and integrated well into Tijuana. The crisis at the border is being exasperated by the unwillingness of many to claim asylum in Mexico.
Most will end up in Mexico if history is an example. The only big deal about this caravan is that some people are making such a big deal of it.
no way do they fire on the so-called caravan.
they'd have to be ordered to, is the only conceivable way it could happen.
many of them wouldn't. it's illegal to obey illegal orders.
It's still a bigger deal than past caravans because it's made up of so many people. Tijuana isn't prepared to cope with this many people who need assistance and are basically just waiting around to cross the US-MEX border.... at least according to the mayor.
Yeah, not sure if I'm going to trust the word of a mayor with a 4% approval rating to honestly gauge the ability of a city of 1.6 million to accommodate 3000 migrants.
Ok, but just look at the actual conditions there:
Yeah, not sure if I'm going to trust the word of a mayor with a 4% approval rating to honestly gauge the ability of a city of 1.6 million to accommodate 3000 migrants.
It's not just the mayor saying this.
About what I expected. There's a good chance they'll be in cages in the states.
On Monday, DHS officials told reporters that their intelligence on Sunday night had indicated that a group of migrants wanted to run through the car lanes of a border crossing near San Diego. Customs and Border Protection shut down all northbound lanes of the crossing from 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. as a result. However, the ambush was never attempted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...aravan-n938416
Feds have paid undercover informants in migrant caravan
The 4,000 migrants have used WhatsApp text message groups to communicate along their journey, and DHS personnel have joined those groups to gather info.
torture is illegal, but DHS/ICE is torturing children, damaging them for life, with family separation
Illegal to bomb the out of non-combattants, but USA has been doing it for years, is doing it.
The military, like law enforcement, is full of sick, sadistic people who joined to kill.
Trump is paying the Caravan to narc on itself. is that what Fabbs just said?
White House approves broad new powers — including use of deadly force — for U.S. troops on the border
A memo signed by White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly authorized the 5,900 troops on the border to protect Border Patrol officers and other U.S. personnel.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-border-troops-20181121-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter
So it's not a Presidential EO? It's just soon-to-be-fired Kelly? Trash is too chicken for an EO?
Down on the border, Texas volunteers open their homes and hearts to asylum seekers
Tugging wagons loaded with chicken dinners, blankets, coats and shoes, Mike Benavides and his partner, Sergio Cordova, guided half a dozen volunteers across the bridge from Texas into one of Mexico’s most dangerous states.
They walked past Mexican customs and headed to a group of about two dozen migrants camping under tarps at the foot of the bridge. Days before, the volunteers had brought them the tarps.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...s=mcnewsletter
What is with this woman complaining about the food she's given. And she doesn't look like she's anywhere near starving to death - just saying.
Last edited by rmt; 11-22-2018 at 12:16 PM.
I think some Mexicans are offended that so many migrants refuse to claim asylum in Mexico...
If the migrants were REALLY fleeing persecution/violence, they would claim asylum in Mexico and not walk/ride a thousand? miles more to get to the US.
They know opportunity in MX is much lower than US, while corruption, violence just as bad as their home countries.
MX officials are shaking down asylum seekers piling up on the MX side,
as El Chapo's trial witnesses are claiming huge corruption by drug cartels of the MX police and military.
It's so bad in their home countries, deported parents prefer to leave their orphaned kids in USA than bring back to their US-created hole countries.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-23-2018 at 09:24 AM.
What I don't get is that they are offered asylum further south, refuse it and expect good food to be offered on the northern Mexico border. Sorry, if I were Mexico, the only offer would be on the southern border - if you don't accept, you're on your own - provide your own food and shelter or better yet deport them back as they are then illegal in Mexico. Unfortunately, US law seems to be dependent on Mexico/Canada doing this and that's why we're in this mess with non-contiguous countries.
Opportunity is much lower in most countries than US - that is not a valid reason for asylum. You seem to think that the entire planet should be allowed to come here and then what - the US becomes the same hole that you claim they are all coming from.
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