Spurs: But but its all.about the system..50 wins regardless of personel

[baseline bum]

How's the system working now that they don't have hof players in Timmy,manu,tp9,kwitter? Talent matters more in the nba than in any other bball league. You wont win if you dont have top 5 nba talent. Of all the teams that have ranged during the last 20 years I could only think of the 2004 detroit pistons that didn't have a top 5 talent leading them on, but they had allstars in rip, chauncy, wallace and big ben leading them on. Not exactly the brin forbes of the league.

2014 Spurs didn't have a top 10 player

[JakeCuenca]

2014 Spurs didn't have a top 10 player

Duncan and Kawhi were sniffing top 10 player numbers in terms of advanced stats. And Leonard was alread annointed as one in 2015 despite being clealry offensively limited.

[Kyle_Kuzma]

[DAF86]

That's actually a horrible example. Mark Jackson just let Curry, Thompson and Draymond "play" and they weren't more than a cute regular season team. It wasn't untill Kerr got there and told them how to play that they started kicking serious ass.

I'm in the talent over coaching wagon, but that Kerr vs Jackson argument is the worst you can come up with, tbh.

[LkrFan]

keeping wrong guy to make him happy and build around...

fkn he couldnt do it in portland, what makes patfo think he can get it done in SA?

pathetic, the whole roster needs to go man

Nope, you're gonna enjoy this sammich. You farmers bragged that he chose SATX over LA. Skinning and grinning and . Then you took PATFO side vs Kiwi. Pathetic tbh.

[venitian navigator]

That's actually a horrible example. Mark Jackson just let Curry, Thompson and Draymond "play" and they weren't more than a cute regular season team. It wasn't untill Kerr got there and told them how to play that they started kicking serious ass.

I'm in the talent over coaching wagon, but that Kerr vs Jackson argument is the worst you can come up with, tbh.

agree

[midnightpulp]

That's actually a horrible example. Mark Jackson just let Curry, Thompson and Draymond "play" and they weren't more than a cute regular season team. It wasn't untill Kerr got there and told them how to play that they started kicking serious ass.

I'm in the talent over coaching wagon, but that Kerr vs Jackson argument is the worst you can come up with, tbh.

The Jackson issue had more to do with him losing the locker room than any "system" incompatibilities. And even under Jackson, they were very close to beating the Spurs in 2013. They probably go to the Finals if they beat the Spurs. Kind of reminds me of the Del Harris to Phil Jackson situation. Shaq didn't like Del. (people will say Del Harris teams kept getting swept in the playoffs prior to Phil, but Del never had anything close to a prime Kobe. The Lakers also ran into very good Utah teams). Del three peats just the same, no doubt in my mind.

[DMC]

2014 Spurs didn't have a top 10 player

They had the deepest roster in history

[Kyle_Kuzma]

The Jackson issue had more to do with him losing the locker room than any "system" incompatibilities. And even under Jackson, they were very close to beating the Spurs in 2013. They probably go to the Finals if they beat the Spurs. Kind of reminds me of the Del Harris to Phil Jackson situation. Shaq didn't like Del. (people will say Del Harris teams kept getting swept in the playoffs prior to Phil, but Del never had anything close to a prime Kobe. The Lakers also ran into very good Utah teams). Del three peats just the same, no doubt in my mind.

smart cat

[Ginobilly]

2014 Spurs didn't have a top 10 player

I dont know much about advanced stats as I don't have the time to immerse myself in that, but I would never put any players in the top 10 who didn't do in the playoffs or finals for that year. I know a lot of you guys like to put flashy guys who jacked up a load of shots, and scored a lot, ahead of our spurs players who didn't have the ppg, but they had the substance when it counted.

The players who got done are your true alphas for that year.

[Ginobilly]

The point of this thread is the spurs aint doing until they get better talent to surround demar/lma. History says you need superstars or allstars with solid role players to win it or go far in the p.o.

[ambchang]

The point of this thread is the spurs aint doing until they get better talent to surround demar/lma. History says you need superstars or allstars with solid role players to win it or go far in the p.o.

Well duh.