So when are we making some moves?

[duncan2k5]

How about just stand pat and improve our draft position. Murray will be back next year and we still don’t know what we have in Walker. I do think we need to move on from LMA but not for nothing. We need to exercise patience.

So u want to keep him for three more years as he declines and becomes even more worthless?

[tbdog]

Totally delusional when he hid from them in NY.

There was a lot of people here that wanted Spurs to work it out and offer the super max. But the point was that the Spurs were building around Leonard. You could say that the spurs should have traded him draft night then built around the new team. But as far as everyone knew, the offers were low and DD wasn't even an option. Lakers never included Ingram. Sixers didnt even have Fultz on the offer sheet. Celtics offered Rozier and Morris most likely.

[sasaint]

There was a lot of people here that wanted Spurs to work it out and offer the super max. But the point was that the Spurs were building around Leonard. You could say that the spurs should have traded him draft night then built around the new team. But as far as everyone knew, the offers were low and DD wasn't even an option. Lakers never included Ingram. Sixers didnt even have Fultz on the offer sheet. Celtics offered Rozier and Morris most likely.

To build around a player who wouldn't even meet you in NY is totally delusional. Number 2 was not rejoining that Spurs team under that regime.

[tbdog]

The philosophy was the Spurs get Leonard at US camp and away from the Uncle camp. Still, the Spurs did not get offers worthy enough at draft day.

[Mr. Body]

This wouldn't be a bad team if LMA was actually good. He's dropping off a cliff.

No one on the squad is worth trading or will get anything in return. There were some bad mistakes there, like resigning Bertans instead of Anderson, and then Mills and Gasol were expensive - but then this team would be even worse without them. It's just a team of junky parts with little talent, especially when all the young guards went down. I understand the urge to not give up and tank -- it could be five, eight, ten years before SAS can field another decent team. But they may need a miracle somewhere.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

[tbdog]

This wouldn't be a bad team if LMA was actually good. He's dropping off a cliff.

No one on the squad is worth trading or will get anything in return. There were some bad mistakes there, like resigning Bertans instead of Anderson, and then Mills and Gasol were expensive - but then this team would be even worse without them. It's just a team of junky parts with little talent, especially when all the young guards went down. I understand the urge to not give up and tank -- it could be five, eight, ten years before SAS can field another decent team. But they may need a miracle somewhere.

You never tank unless injuries make it the only option. You always compete for wins. LMA not scoring well is hurting. We need to outscore teams and we can't when our main scorer is shooting low 40%.

Come trade deadline, two of; Mills, Gasol, Forbes, Beli and Bertans should be traded for defenders with a jump shot. But we cannot give up any 1st in the process.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This wouldn't be a bad team if LMA was actually good. He's dropping off a cliff.

No one on the squad is worth trading or will get anything in return. There were some bad mistakes there, like resigning Bertans instead of Anderson, and then Mills and Gasol were expensive - but then this team would be even worse without them. It's just a team of junky parts with little talent, especially when all the young guards went down. I understand the urge to not give up and tank -- it could be five, eight, ten years before SAS can field another decent team. But they may need a miracle somewhere.

So ducking scary that his extension doesn’t kick in until next season. He’s a disaster

[sasaint]

So ducking scary that his extension doesn’t kick in until next season. He’s a disaster

Absolutely need to move him now.

[SouthTexasRancher]

I'm still in the boat that thinks that a trade better helps this team than tanking. DeRozan is legit and would love to win with him. Hopefully everybody but him is on the trade market and they can try and figure out what pieces are needed to complement him.

I totally agree with TDomination's viewpoint. Tanking won't help us win right away unless there is an LBJ or Kobe or Michael in the draft and I doubt there is one in the draft that can take over right away.

[Mr. Body]

You never tank unless injuries make it the only option. You always compete for wins. LMA not scoring well is hurting. We need to outscore teams and we can't when our main scorer is shooting low 40%.

Come trade deadline, two of; Mills, Gasol, Forbes, Beli and Bertans should be traded for defenders with a jump shot. But we cannot give up any 1st in the process.

No one wants any of those players.

[sasaint]

No one wants any of those players.

Especially without attaching a pick!

[John B]

You never tank unless injuries make it the only option. You always compete for wins. LMA not scoring well is hurting. We need to outscore teams and we can't when our main scorer is shooting low 40%.

Come trade deadline, two of; Mills, Gasol, Forbes, Beli and Bertans should be traded for defenders with a jump shot. But we cannot give up any 1st in the process.

If you want a proven star, you have to pay the price.

[MultiTroll]

I think these moves will continue to be made by the Spurs org

BTW did the older gentleman with Carmello Anthony behind him win the comp?
Not that winning matters, they all participated.

[vavvi]

Pop coaches during the season. He doesn’t trade.
He’s 70 years old. He does one thing at a time.

[superbigtime]

It's not happening. Looks like we are tanking to me.

[John B]

Pop coaches during the season. He doesn’t trade.
He’s 70 years old. He does one thing at a time.

He cannot coach a dog to type, much less Mills, Forbes, Belli and Bertran to play strong defense, either too short, too slow, and not enough athleticism. After the road trip, Spurs would be below .500 after 21 years. He needs to make some changes and be accountable to the fans.

[acoelho1]

So u want to keep him for three more years as he declines and becomes even more worthless?

I said I don't want to give him away. He still has value and the season is early. He had pretty good season last year so trading him at his low point makes no sense. I do think moving on from LMA is best for the team but showing a little patience doesn't mean I want him on the roster for the rest of his contract. The Spurs need to explore all options because unless Walker comes in and saves the day or LMA recaptures his game, I don't think this team is good enough (especially without Murray) to make the playoffs given how deep the west is this year.

[Chillen]

Just sign Melo and call it a season, Pop can blame the Melo signing for not making the playoffs and still look like his typical coaching genius self.

[DAF86]

Just sign Melo and call it a season, Pop can blame the Melo signing for not making the playoffs and still look like his typical coaching genius self.

Actually, seeing how important Gay is for this team (and how injury prone), I wouldn't mind signing Melo as a Rudy insurance, tbh.

[Fusternino]

Honestly . . . signing Melo isn't a bad idea. I could see him playing well under Pop. But in reality in order to make a move to get better we need to move pieces. But we don't have any pieces other teams would be interested in.

[Chillen]

I am cool with signing Melo actually as I think he is a better fit for this team than Rockets. If they can sign a washed up Tmac I don't see the problem in signing Melo.

[duncan2k5]

I said I don't want to give him away. He still has value and the season is early. He had pretty good season last year so trading him at his low point makes no sense. I do think moving on from LMA is best for the team but showing a little patience doesn't mean I want him on the roster for the rest of his contract. The Spurs need to explore all options because unless Walker comes in and saves the day or LMA recaptures his game, I don't think this team is good enough (especially without Murray) to make the playoffs given how deep the west is this year.

But that's what I'm alluding to... I don't think LMA will regain his form because he doesn't play well with stars, and is getting older... So waiting around till he gets better may tank his value even more... Trade NOW!

[duncan2k5]

I am cool with signing Melo actually as I think he is a better fit for this team than Rockets. If they can sign a washed up Tmac I don't see the problem in signing Melo.

Yea sure... Let's sign another washed up star in the tail end of their career that has no three point game, no defense, and doesn't play well with others

[Poolboy5623]

You need pieces in order to make moves....the Spurs have .