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    "Opportunity is much lower in most countries than US - that is not a valid reason for asylum"

    the primary reason for seeking asylum is to escape the violence, corruption in their home countries. More opportunity, and less corruption in USA.

    "You seem to think that the entire planet should be allowed to come here"

    You Lie and are full of ignorant, racist bull

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    Migrants Seeking Asylum Now Forced to Pay Bribes to Enter the U.S.


    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11...iticus+USA+%29

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    "Opportunity is much lower in most countries than US - that is not a valid reason for asylum"

    the primary reason for seeking asylum is to escape the violence, corruption in their home countries. More opportunity, and less corruption in USA.

    "You seem to think that the entire planet should be allowed to come here"

    You Lie and are full of ignorant, racist bull
    Since the US has more opportunity, less violence and corruption than most other countries and those are their reasons for coming, shouldn't it follow that (to you) most of the entire planet (excluding, of course, the European socialist citizens who wouldn't want to come here because their countries are "better" than the US :-) + Australia/New Zealand/etc should be allowed to come here.

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    Trump sending troops to intercept caravan is illegal

    Sending troops to the border to intercept asylum-seeking migrants is an illegal bald-faced political stunt

    “The deployment of US troops to the Southern border is an illegitimate political ploy and a serious misuse of the military.

    This action casts shame on a government that treats refugees seeking asylum as enemies.”

    The illegality of Trump’s order to the military opens the door to the possibility that service members will resist it:

    Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Nuremberg Principles and Army Field Manuals, service members have a duty to obey lawful orders and a duty to disobey unlawful orders.

    Trump’s lawyers invariably realized that using the military to enforce the laws is prohibited by the Posse Comitatus Act.

    The Posse Comitatus Act
    forbids the willful use of “any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws.” It has been applied as well to the Navy and Marine Corps.

    The only exception to the Posse Comitatus Act’s prohibition is “in cases and under cir stances expressly authorized by the Cons ution or Act of Congress.”

    “Black Hawk helicopters equipped with night sensors will be available to ferry Border Patrol personnel ‘exactly where they need to be’ to ‘spot groups’ and ‘to fast-rope down’ to intercept migrants trying to cross the border.

    Military aircraft will conduct surveillance.”

    Troops who carry out these functions would also be participating in the enforcement of the immigration laws.

    “Military personnel are legally prohibited from engaging in immigration enforcement, and there is no emergency or cost-benefit analysis to justify this sudden deployment,”

    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/23/tru...legal_partner/

    So Trash, like Kemp, is LAWLESS, a political power play abusing the military, violating the Cons ution he so-called swore to defend, but never read.

    Who will punish Trash? What would be the penalty?

    Or will Trash be free, unpunished, unaccountable, to continue violate the Cons ution and international law indefinitely?

    And where are the Repugs? nowhere, silently complicit, while upholding their only value:

    fellating BigDonor for cash.





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    Trump sending troops to intercept caravan is illegal

    Sending troops to the border to intercept asylum-seeking migrants is an illegal bald-faced political stunt

    “The deployment of US troops to the Southern border is an illegitimate political ploy and a serious misuse of the military.

    This action casts shame on a government that treats refugees seeking asylum as enemies.”

    The illegality of Trump’s order to the military opens the door to the possibility that service members will resist it:

    Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Nuremberg Principles and Army Field Manuals, service members have a duty to obey lawful orders and a duty to disobey unlawful orders.

    Trump’s lawyers invariably realized that using the military to enforce the laws is prohibited by the Posse Comitatus Act.

    The Posse Comitatus Act
    forbids the willful use of “any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws.” It has been applied as well to the Navy and Marine Corps.

    The only exception to the Posse Comitatus Act’s prohibition is “in cases and under cir stances expressly authorized by the Cons ution or Act of Congress.”

    “Black Hawk helicopters equipped with night sensors will be available to ferry Border Patrol personnel ‘exactly where they need to be’ to ‘spot groups’ and ‘to fast-rope down’ to intercept migrants trying to cross the border.

    Military aircraft will conduct surveillance.”

    Troops who carry out these functions would also be participating in the enforcement of the immigration laws.

    “Military personnel are legally prohibited from engaging in immigration enforcement, and there is no emergency or cost-benefit analysis to justify this sudden deployment,”

    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/23/tru...legal_partner/

    So Trash, like Kemp, is LAWLESS, a political power play abusing the military, violating the Cons ution he so-called swore to defend, but never read.

    Who will punish Trash? What would be the penalty?

    Or will Trash be free, unpunished, unaccountable, to continue violate the Cons ution and international law indefinitely?

    And where are the Repugs? nowhere, silently complicit, while upholding their only value:

    fellating BigDonor for cash.





    Cannot disagree with a word.

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    Since the US has more opportunity, less violence and corruption than most other countries and those are their reasons for coming, shouldn't it follow that (to you) most of the entire planet (excluding, of course, the European socialist citizens who wouldn't want to come here because their countries are "better" than the US :-) + Australia/New Zealand/etc should be allowed to come here.
    That was the way it was in the states until they thought too many Chinese were coming in.

    Go figure.

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    That was the way it was in the states until they thought too many Chinese were coming in.

    Go figure.
    The difference is the Chinese (as opposed to this caravan) probably pull their own weight (meaning don't do on welfare) and (in my experience) speak excellent English. They have their babies (American citizenship is insurance for the future in case of China) and go back to China. They want their children raised CHINESE. Then, maybe in the future, they have an up on college/university as a US citizen as opposed to an International.

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    The difference is the Chinese (as opposed to this caravan) probably pull their own weight (meaning don't do on welfare) and (in my experience) speak excellent English. They have their babies (American citizenship is insurance for the future in case of China) and go back to China. They want their children raised CHINESE. Then, maybe in the future, they have an up on college/university as a US citizen as opposed to an International.
    Take it up with US history, lady.

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    I don't particularly dwell on what the US did to the Chinese (or anyone else) back in the day - got nothing to do with me/don't know those people. I'm in the here and now and what I can do for my and especially my kids' future.

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    I don't particularly dwell on what the US did to the Chinese (or anyone else) back in the day - got nothing to do with me/don't know those people. I'm in the here and now and what I can do for my and especially my kids' future.
    great. No need to get defensive about being Chinese.

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    great. No need to get defensive about being Chinese.
    I'm not - as far as I'm concerned I'm an island girl in a Chinese body. Other than Chinese food, there's not much Chinese in me - don't speak the language, don't think like them (but appreciate its culture as my dad is very much a old-fashioned, traditional Chinese man). What I'm trying to say (poorly, I guess) is that I am not chained by what happened to other people in the past - whether they were my skin color, ancestors, whatever. As far as I'm concerned, each person is his own individual and is in charge of/responsible for his own destiny. I don't like public education - I did something about it. If you believe in climate change and that we can do something about it, sell your car and ride/walk to work. Iow, put your money where your mouth is.

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    I'm not - as far as I'm concerned I'm an island girl in a Chinese body. Other than Chinese food, there's not much Chinese in me - don't speak the language, don't think like them (but appreciate its culture as my dad is very much a old-fashioned, traditional Chinese man). What I'm trying to say (poorly, I guess) is that I am not chained by what happened to other people in the past - whether they were my skin color, ancestors, whatever. As far as I'm concerned, each person is his own individual and is in charge of/responsible for his own destiny. I don't like public education - I did something about it. If you believe in climate change and that we can do something about it, sell your car and ride/walk to work. Iow, put your money where your mouth is.
    ranting

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    hardly - ranting is discussing vaccines with RG or anything Obamacare. This is chilling - no need to cook dinner, long weekend, 2 of 3 kids at home with me, waiting to return a damaged 55 inch TV so I can watch Star Trek Discovery with dh.

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    that caravan... let it get to the border with everyone in it and then turn it around and push it back into the rio grande.

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    hardly - ranting is discussing vaccines with RG or anything Obamacare. This is chilling - no need to cook dinner, long weekend, 2 of 3 kids at home with me, waiting to return a damaged 55 inch TV so I can watch Star Trek Discovery with dh.
    always defensive

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    I don't particularly dwell on what the US did to the Chinese (or anyone else) back in the day - got nothing to do with me/don't know those people. I'm in the here and now and what I can do for my and especially my kids' future.
    of course you don't dwell on things that are inconvenient for you to dwell on. That's called intellectual dishonesty. Goes hand in hand with the second part of that sentence: self-centering.

    Obviously, none of this is a shocking development. You're well on your way to be another "don't touch my Medicare!" when the time comes. All about you.

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    I'm not - as far as I'm concerned I'm an island girl in a Chinese body. Other than Chinese food, there's not much Chinese in me - don't speak the language, don't think like them (but appreciate its culture as my dad is very much a old-fashioned, traditional Chinese man). What I'm trying to say (poorly, I guess) is that I am not chained by what happened to other people in the past - whether they were my skin color, ancestors, whatever. As far as I'm concerned, each person is his own individual and is in charge of/responsible for his own destiny. I don't like public education - I did something about it. If you believe in climate change and that we can do something about it, sell your car and ride/walk to work. Iow, put your money where your mouth is.

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    of course you don't dwell on things that are inconvenient for you to dwell on. That's called intellectual dishonesty. Goes hand in hand with the second part of that sentence: self-centering.

    Obviously, none of this is a shocking development. You're well on your way to be another "don't touch my Medicare!" when the time comes. All about you.

    How long should we feel guilty and what are your recommended repurcussions?

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    How long should we feel guilty and what are your recommended repurcussions?
    Feeling guilty won't do it. You would be wise to introspect into the whole Jesus and Bible thingie and figure out how the whole selfishness thing is entirely incongruent with that.

    But you won't, because you're a fake Christian and intellectual dishonesty and incoherence is a daily occurrence for you.

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    Obviously, that requires thinking by oneself, a twitter thread from a third party won't do it for you.

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    Arguably, getting our of your comfort zone is one of the most important character building things a person can do. Both at the social and intellectual levels.

    Empathy is key here, but if you're in love with yourself, that's generally difficult to do.

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    To be fair, this isn't exclusive of rmt or Chris, the incongruence of organized religion when it comes to this and the american conservative, their generally larger audience, has happened for a long time.

    The only way to overcome it is with another intellectual dishonesty: those who are not conservatives are evil, have no morals, and they must be fought. Complete nonsense, even when they're aware it's not true.

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    ^bunch of insults and cliche hoopla

    *taking the high road and moving on

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    The difference is the Chinese (as opposed to this caravan) probably pull their own weight (meaning don't do on welfare) and (in my experience) speak excellent English. They have their babies (American citizenship is insurance for the future in case of China) and go back to China. They want their children raised CHINESE. Then, maybe in the future, they have an up on college/university as a US citizen as opposed to an International.
    ing definition of anchor babies.

    Shouldn't you be pissed the off chinese repug?

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