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    ^bunch of insults and cliche hoopla

    *taking the high road and moving on
    Yeah, you're better off posting somebody's else thoughts on twitter. That really highlights your intellectual shrewdness on the topic, lmao

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    ing definition of anchor babies.

    Shouldn't you be pissed the off chinese repug?
    The method described above does not bother the American taxpayer with the cost of educating K-12, welfare benefits, extra $ for ESOL programs, etc. The Chinese get citizenship and disappear for 18 years to later have an easier path to whichever elite US college and probably an eventual contributing, taxpaying PHD/grad.

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    The method described above does not bother the American taxpayer with the cost of educating K-12, welfare benefits, extra $ for ESOL programs, etc. The Chinese get citizenship and disappear for 18 years to later have an easier path to whichever elite US college and probably an eventual contributing, taxpaying PHD/grad.
    All that and they are still kng Anchor babies.

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    Arguably, getting our of your comfort zone is one of the most important character building things a person can do. Both at the social and intellectual levels.

    Empathy is key here, but if you're in love with yourself, that's generally difficult to do.
    I guess quitting a good-paying government job to live on one income and taking on the job of education 3 kids up to high school are staying in one's comfort zone. Maybe I should have towed the typical line and allowed public school indoctrination of my kids and stayed at that government job - I'd be collecting a nice, fat pension right now instead of what I did. Stepping out into that unknown of teaching kids to read and do math (with no prior/previous experience) ain't exactly comfort zone stuff and neither is being with kids 24/7 equal being in love with myself - that'd be staying in safe, stable govt job and fobbing my kids off on public schools.

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    All that and they are still kng Anchor babies.
    I didn't say they weren't - I was attempting to explain why US citizens might not be as averse to Chinese anchor babies as others.
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    I guess quitting a good-paying government job to live on one income and taking on the job of education 3 kids up to high school are staying in one's comfort zone. Maybe I should have towed the typical line and allowed public school indoctrination of my kids and stayed at that government job - I'd be collecting a nice, fat pension right now instead of what I did. Stepping out into that unknown of teaching kids to read and do math (with no prior/previous experience) ain't exactly comfort zone stuff and neither is being with kids 24/7 equal being in love with myself - that'd be staying in safe, stable govt job and fobbing my kids off on public schools.
    Arguably, sending your kids to public school would be getting you out of your comfort zone. They received the indoctrination no matter what, but at least you would've worked out your prejudice about public schools (million of other kids that attend public school every year are doing just fine).

    I'm glad you had the chance to be able not to have a job and raise your kids. Not a lot of people can do that. Hope you dwell about that people too, or when you were in those shoes (if you ever were).

    I have no problem with people putting family first, tbh, the issue I see is when they put them 2nd and 3rd too, and they speak from a place of en lement. I personally (and fortunately) worked my way up the stairs, but I never forget what's it like to be at the bottom. I think it's important. It's not all about me or my family, once we're in a good place.

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    It's so bad in their home countries, deported parents prefer to leave their orphaned kids in USA than bring back to their US-created hole countries.
    “US-created”? Explain how.... did the US give $175million in aide to Honduras last year?

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    “US-created”? Explain how.... did the US give $175million in aide to Honduras last year?
    I have a perfectly understandable explanation for this answer, but I'll wait for boutons to completely miss the opportunity and really botch it.

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    I've no dog in this fight (no strong feelings on the issue to take a definite stance) but how does Mexico (the govt. and police) just allow a mass of people foreign to their nation travel through their country heading for the northern border?

    If they are claiming asylum then wouldn't they request that from Mexico else be subject for deportation?

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    “US-created”? Explain how.... did the US give $175million in aide to Honduras last year?
    do you google?

    cia nicaragua

    cia honduras

    cia el salvador

    cia guatemala

    banana republic central america

    Iran contra

    etc, etc.

    USA has meddle in, on Central America for decades.

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    Besides the CIA coup issue (which granted, was more prominent in the Allende days), there's also the systematic political corruption that local corporations largely try to exploit instead of correcting (see Odebrecht for the more recent case in a long list)

    In that sense, US corporations who have to compete in those areas also join that game, compounding the problem, and that certainly reflects poorly on the US as a country (which has laws to punish such behavior from US companies, but it's hard to track due to offshores, etc).

    So I wouldn't necessarily put it as "US created", but the US-based presence in these countries is regularly criticized for their focus on money-making over improving the countries.

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    So I wouldn't necessarily put it as "US created", but the US-based presence in these countries is regularly criticized for their focus on money-making over improving the countries.
    US military also trained the military, para-military that keep those countries safe for BigCorp corruption, exploitation and for overthrowing democratically elected politicians who talk about health care, minimum wage, unions, workers' rights, "socialism".
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    Arguably, sending your kids to public school would be getting you out of your comfort zone. They received the indoctrination no matter what, but at least you would've worked out your prejudice about public schools (million of other kids that attend public school every year are doing just fine).

    I'm glad you had the chance to be able not to have a job and raise your kids. Not a lot of people can do that. Hope you dwell about that people too, or when you were in those shoes (if you ever were).

    I have no problem with people putting family first, tbh, the issue I see is when they put them 2nd and 3rd too, and they speak from a place of en lement. I personally (and fortunately) worked my way up the stairs, but I never forget what's it like to be at the bottom. I think it's important. It's not all about me or my family, once we're in a good place.
    ElNono, I was attempting (and obviously failed) to be SARCASTIC in my post - trying to refute your statement that I STAYED in my comfort zone and the implication that my character was not built by staying in my comfort zone. The easy thing was to have sent them to public school - NOT research curriculum, learn how to teach them to read/do math, short term lesson planning and long term college goals, etc. They did not received public school indoctrination - people might say instead they received our indoctrination - as in our values, religion, morals, behavior, etc. I realize that your post is based on my not too clear attempt at sarcasm. I will address the religion post when I get back from bowling.

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    Damn...Nono bullying Chris in the paint like Dream did Robinson

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    Gosh, going back and reading your posts, ElNono, you were on a roll. It never ceases to amaze how people assume they "know" someone from what's posted on this board - especially one who flatly refuses to discuss religion on this board and for whom it would obviously be a big part of that person's life. What do you want to hear - about feeding the homeless, about Operation Christmas Child, about Angel Tree - then will you use labels like selfish, self-centered, all about you, etc? Shall I mention those so that religion can be mocked and painted with a wide brush?

    To be fair, this isn't exclusive of rmt or Chris, the incongruence of organized religion when it comes to this and the american conservative, their generally larger audience, has happened for a long time.

    The only way to overcome it is with another intellectual dishonesty: those who are not conservatives are evil, have no morals, and they must be fought. Complete nonsense, even when they're aware it's not true.
    I'd like to see any of my posts that those who are not conservatives are evil, have no morals and must be fought.

    I respectfully disagree that what this board needs (and I am speaking mostly to/about young people) is more empathy. There's too much empathy/sympathy floating around this board. What is needed is THANKFULNESS and APPRECIATION for the many blessings we have - particularly living in this country where we have the freedom to do and be whatever we want to be instead of what there's too much of around here - griping, complaining, blaming whoever/whatever for ills. Everyone here has access to the internet, is reasonably intelligent - go out and live your life the way you want to.

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    Gosh, going back and reading your posts, ElNono, you were on a roll. It never ceases to amaze how people assume they "know" someone from what's posted on this board - especially one who flatly refuses to discuss religion on this board and for whom it would obviously be a big part of that person's life. What do you want to hear - about feeding the homeless, about Operation Christmas Child, about Angel Tree - then will you use labels like selfish, self-centered, all about you, etc? Shall I mention those so that religion can be mocked and painted with a wide brush?



    I'd like to see any of my posts that those who are not conservatives are evil, have no morals and must be fought.

    I respectfully disagree that what this board needs (and I am speaking mostly to/about young people) is more empathy. There's too much empathy/sympathy floating around this board. What is needed is THANKFULNESS and APPRECIATION for the many blessings we have - particularly living in this country where we have the freedom to do and be whatever we want to be instead of what there's too much of around here - griping, complaining, blaming whoever/whatever for ills. Everyone here has access to the internet, is reasonably intelligent - go out and live your life the way you want to.

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    Damn...Nono bullying Chris in the paint like Dream did Robinson
    lol wut

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    Washington Post: Mexico Backs Trump's Plan to Overhaul Asylum Rules

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    Trump administration makes tentative deal to force asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico: report

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-mexico-report

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    Gosh, going back and reading your posts, ElNono, you were on a roll. It never ceases to amaze how people assume they "know" someone from what's posted on this board - especially one who flatly refuses to discuss religion on this board and for whom it would obviously be a big part of that person's life. What do you want to hear - about feeding the homeless, about Operation Christmas Child, about Angel Tree - then will you use labels like selfish, self-centered, all about you, etc? Shall I mention those so that religion can be mocked and painted with a wide brush?
    I can only go by your post history, that's much richer than you give it credit to. Heck, my reply started on a self-centered post of yours...

    I'd like to see any of my posts that those who are not conservatives are evil, have no morals and must be fought.
    Your disdain for anything liberal is well do ented. If you want the posts I can certainly link to them. It's your right to have that disdain, but don't feel offended when brought up.

    Furthermore, you readily admit the decision to home school your children is largely related to the liberal indoctrination boogeyman. I didn't make that up, and I don't need to know much more about you to derive a conclusion about it.

    You do get credit for not having the typical knee-jerk reaction to my post that the prototypical fake christian conservative did ITT, tbh

    [/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree that what this board needs (and I am speaking mostly to/about young people) is more empathy. There's too much empathy/sympathy floating around this board. What is needed is THANKFULNESS and APPRECIATION for the many blessings we have - particularly living in this country where we have the freedom to do and be whatever we want to be instead of what there's too much of around here - griping, complaining, blaming whoever/whatever for ills. Everyone here has access to the internet, is reasonably intelligent - go out and live your life the way you want to.[/QUOTE]

    It's not just this board, I think we'll be better served if people that can, would take some time to put themselves into the shoes of the less fortunate, IMO. Sure, you're eventually going to run into some truly dumb people, that's unavoidable, but those can easily be ignored. It's the best way to get a first hand account, what their grievances are, etc.

    BTW, I don't have anything against conservatism in general (except for social conservatism, which I've readily admitted to despise), I work with conservatives and have conservative friends in my life, like most people do. There's plenty I despise on the left also, like when it reaches moral relativism. And my criticism of organized religion wasn't directed specifically to Christians, the same criticism can be levied against the vast majority of organized religion.

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    soooooo scary

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    Trump gonna close that .

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    less Trash such a tough guy from 1000s of miles away against unarmed, desperate asylum seekers, but so gutless, spineless chick to visit "his" troops in war zones.

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    Trump gonna close that .
    lol moar panic

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