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You're gonna be so mad when they string together some wins lol. Tanking guarantees nothing
Yup! Spurs value culture and corporate knowledge. The league just happens to be better because a lot of what the Spurs did right, the other teams are adopting.
You're gonna be so mad when they string together some wins lol. Tanking guarantees nothing
You said they would go 2-1 vs the Grizzlies, Pacers and Bucks. You know nothing.Maybe you meant moral victories lol
And tanking is better than a first round raping and a consolation prize of a ty high pick. If you really trust PATFO, then imagine what kind of player they would find with a lottery pick. They could probably even package that pick + Toronto pick to move up or trade for an actual good player.
several teams have shown that you can be compe ive without intentional tank, and even more teams have shown that being in the lottery guarantees absolutely nothing, it's all about the front office, scout and player development system, Spurs probably has the worst group of role players to put around stars right now (this is a pessoal opinion), but we have two proven stars, with an elite support roster (this is PATFO's job , we would probably be one of the top 4 teams in the leagueYou said they would go 2-1 vs the Grizzlies, Pacers and Bucks. You know nothing.
And tanking is better than a first round raping and a consolation prize of a ty high pick. If you really trust PATFO, then imagine what kind of player they would find with a lottery pick. They could probably even package that pick + Toronto pick to move up or trade for an actual good player.
I agree but I think 6-7 th
our roster is bad because of the cascade effect of the mistakes made by Pop, not because we did not have lottery picks
All I'm saying is that the PATFO fluffers are the ones to quickly dismiss tanking by saying that tanking doesn't guarantee . To me it proves they talk out of one side of their mouths showing how little faith they have in PATFO.
True but this team isn't a free agency attraction. Only way the Spurs are going to improve is by drafting the next Kawhi (or Manu, TP, Duncan, etc) because that's how they do it. And people, don't give me that of "we're players after 2019 in the free agency scene" because it's funny how that year keeps moving up due to incompetency and handing out loyalty contracts.
usually I agree with you, just in the specific case of losing intentionally I could not do it (although I believe our team is bad enough to lose 50 games this season)
It's all good man. We can agree to disagree.
And yeah, this team was barely .500 with one of the easiest schedules. We haven't seen anything yet.
Well we were a t reff decision from being 2-1 in that trip. Actually, a first-round raping is better than years of non-first round rapings. Look at the Twolves, lottery after lottery, to finally get a round 1 raping. There have been a bunch of teams that have not gotten past the 1st round for years. Even championship teams like the Pistons. In 08 they win 59 wins and lose to the Celtics in the in the ECF. They fire Flip and the next season trade Billups for AI. They have won a total of ZERO playoff games since that 08 run. This is a team with 5 NBA les. They haven't won a playoff game in 10 years. I think they drafted 1 allstar player (Drummond) in that time frame.You said they would go 2-1 vs the Grizzlies, Pacers and Bucks. You know nothing.
And tanking is better than a first round raping and a consolation prize of a ty high pick. If you really trust PATFO, then imagine what kind of player they would find with a lottery pick. They could probably even package that pick + Toronto pick to move up or trade for an actual good player.
Tanking does nothing for your organisation unless it's an injury-plagued year and you move towards youth movement.. You blow it up if the team can not go any further. That there can be no further improvements to the team without it destroying its future. Clippers was a recent team that just had nothing more than it could give. Wizards will be the next team on the block.
Neither does what they are doing if you want to go there...
But I wouldn’t trade Demar or Lamarcus just to get picks at this point. They may just end up being a bad team regardless...
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It still doesn't change the fact that the team went 1-2, whether they were blown out by 40 or lost by a bunch of buzzer beaters. "Almost" victories aren't anywhere on the standings last time I checked.
People here are thinking that I'm talking about full blown blow it up. I'm talking about conspiracy levels of tanking. What I bolded is what I want. Just one year of "wink wink" injuries and with the trend so far this season, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what were to happen.
It would take more legit injuries before the wink wink ones happen. Due to West having no legit tanking team, the west is going to be tight. I wouldn't be suprised there are a lot of 40 to 45 win teams making the playoffs. It's not like the days when there were 10 very good West teams with 10 bad East teams to beat up. East teams are upsetting West teams this year. Thunder were like 0-5 and now the top 4 teams in the first 20 games. We don't know where the injury bug will strike and who. We don't know we going to remain healthy from now on and Lebron goes down for 5 games. The west is so tight any team could bomb out with a bad injury month.
Trying to win basketball games without their starting PG? lol
They're actually playing better, and trending in the right direction. Losing games purposely wont guarantee a dam thing. They already have 2 first round picks
Exactly. We already have some really good young/promising talent.
Have no energy for this. Will be brief: They need talent long term (short term too but I don’t expect much this season in terms of trades like any season really). I don’t advocate cleaning up the roster this year but if you are going to be a bad team it’s better to be quite bad than to be barely scrapping by and missing. You can be really barely making it as a developing young team that hopes to make a leap kinda like Denver for example, but if you are a veteran team like this one, that doesn’t make sense.
Every ing team in the NBA has "young/promising talent".
spurms still only have 17% chance of making the playoffs
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...a-predictions/
it's clear most spur fans, especially the PATFO suckers, really don't watch the rest of the league night to nightEvery ing team in the NBA has "young/promising talent".
Murray, White, Walker; no one would have ever heard of either of them if they were playing in Orlando or Charlotte. few fans outside of this board even know who they are tbh, which is to be expected of players who would be very lucky if they developed into even a 1x all star (murray) and those that it's likely they won't even be starter quality ever in the league (white)
And all of those three guys have medical issues. White is injury prone, Murray is rehabbing from a major injury and Walker has a history which is why he dropped so low in the draft. And I hope to God they're not including Forbes and lottery pick Poeltl in the "young/promising" talent.it's clear most spur fans, especially the PATFO suckers, really don't watch the rest of the league night to night
Murray, White, Walker; no one would have ever heard of either of them if they were playing in Orlando or Charlotte. few fans outside of this board even know who they are tbh, which is to be expected of players who would be very lucky if they developed into even a 1x all star (murray) and those that it's likely they won't even be starter quality ever in the league (white)
Whoope- ing-do!
Team should have been tanking after Murray went down. Lol @ people wanting another playoff sweep and a mediocre first round pick to follow.
This kind of thread after 19 games? Even if you are in the "better to always strive to win and make the playoffs because tanking is no guarantee" camp, it's mighty early to start noting when others keep up with a losing pace .
if you consider young talent to be 24 and under then spur really only have better "young talent" than the following teams, perhaps:And all of those three guys have medical issues. White is injury prone, Murray is rehabbing from a major injury and Walker has a history which is why he dropped so low in the draft. And I hope to God they're not including Forbes and lottery pick Poeltl in the "young/promising" talent.
Whoope- ing-do!
cleveland
golden state
oklahoma city
detroit
washington
miami
really not that impressive of a list to be bragging about tbqh. and if it weren't for murray who is overrated here anyways spur would be dead last
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