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He will get all d votes based on reputation. dPoY and all d teams have historically been pretty horribly off.
He's now on the wrong side of 25 ppg and he still doesn't make plays for teammates (3 assists per game). He's not exactly tearing it up on defense either to make the two-way player argument either. Most would probably venture he won't play enough games either in the first place.....
He will get all d votes based on reputation. dPoY and all d teams have historically been pretty horribly off.
Raps >> Sp*rs tbh
Leonard was averaging 23ppg at 5 rebounds in the Leonard-Harden-Westbrook 2016 season at around this time of the year.
Hes averaging 24.2 9 Rebounds and 3 Assist.
His raw stats are all career highs except for points. And he only averaged 25.3 in 2016.
Op..
His biggest obstacle is resting games via Dennis decision.
I suspect pop could kill his chances by just subtly reminding people that it's counter intuitive to reward a quitter after such a huge failure of character. The resting doesn't help. And the free agency drama is going to get worse too. Dude is gonna rest more down the stretch and find a way to miss the playoffs. Probably follows Dwight into fetish seeking.
^ OP btfo
Would still kill all of you posting here to have him back on the Spurs
Giannis will probably win IMO..
He's not a marquee guy. Just no personality.
No one gives a about Toronto.
I don't know if the league wants to reward a quitter and crybaby who forces a trade for no reason.
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I don't see LeBron getting it. His team kind of sucks.
I don't see anyone on the Warriors getting it.
Harden is out, his team sucks.
People are over Westbrook at this point.
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Dunno who does win it. Greek Freak, I guess. But also no one cares about Milwaukee. At least it's an American city.
Too early to know. We'll know by the break, at least have a list of 5.
He peaked in 2016-17
Another thing to remember, Leonards standard is way too high now. Hes not going to get rewarded for 25ppg fpr 60 win team.
Players like Giannis are 23. And they're not held at a very high standard. If they see him win 55 games. Thats enough of a wow factor to sway the votes.
Lebron should probably win if they make the playoffs though, but he wont. The Lakers is a one man team. The Bucks is really all about Bud and the raptors is 9 deep.
Still Leonard should have won his mvp in 2016. I think its time the media is stripped of that priviliage. I suppose you have to make Unathletic white nerds feel special somehow.
Also Bucks is only one game ahead of the 6th seed in the loss column. Its way too early for like this.
I think a mpre interesting award this year is Rookie of the year but I suspect Doncic skin colour automaticlly gets him the trophy.
Also, is there even a DPOY candidate this year? Gobert, Kawhi,Draymond arently exactly playing DPOY level defense so far in the season.
its also too early for rookie of the year but Doncic definitely looks like the guy. Ayton is dominant but his team has sucked. Doncic has made the Mavs better. My favorite is JJJ but he’s the rawest prospect of the 3 and the foul trouble kills his minutes and opportunities in some high profile games. Which is why I think he’s under the radar at times.
I think you are right and Kawhi’s season was 2016-17, but also in that the Uncle Dennis rest plan torpedoes him. His team is still pretty good without him.
If anything Kiwi should be rewarded for proving he's not a Poop system player.
Poop is the one getting exposed without Kiwi, not vice-versa, hence the salty comments from Poop.
The team argument is silly since Giannis is practiclly a first rounder and a 7th seeder minus Bud, Middleton. The bucks is a deep team.
JJJ is not going to win simply because the grizz play at a slower pace so his raw stats wont pop out. Doncic probably wins it. He looks pretty confident for a 19 year old.
Dennis and Kawhi dont care for MVPs. They want that max badly.
I'm surprised thats not a narrative thats being thrown around.
Leonard really has the worst managment team
18-4 and #1 seed I'm sure he really doesn't care.
It’s not just Kawhi, but Kawhi is a great player so he suffered the most from getting his greatness attributed to Pop and getting that stigma.
A lot of former Spurs roleplayers are doing pretty well around the league. These are guys that other teams and GMs wondered whether they would work outside the Spurs and they are just fine and useful players elsewhere. Of course none is a star, but frankly there was once debate among Spursfans whether Danny would work outside the Spurs. Turns out he can shoot anywhere after all. Spurs system was actually detrimental to his game the past few years.
If anything it’s proven to me Pop really got too much credit for actually the FO having drafted well and players developed well.
It's Tobias Harris by a fair distance right now. The West is a parity fest but that'll happen when you have competent front offices and don't get 50 games a season against tank fests and incompetent GMing. Tobias has the Clips on top and NO ONE saw that happening at all. Nobody had them in the top 12 in the West. If they get a play off seed and he holds his stats, he's the objective MVP, plain and simple. His scoring is a little low, but his FG and 3FG percentages are great.
Unfortunately the NBA is a got league because Adam Silver stole the Dana White playbook by trying to be the WWE, so it's never objective. They couldn't give two s about 90% of it's markets, which works in Tobias' favor since he's in LA, but knowing the WWENBA, this award will go to brook once he starts stat padding again and his squad finishes top 4.
In reality, it's Tobias right now, but that's not sexy enough for the WWENBA. It'll be either brook, Kang (if they get a playoff seed and the Clips fall off) or Leonard with a Golden State as a fair chanced darkhorse.
I don't think you know what "a lot" means.
Of unretired former Spurs active players, most of them are doing quite well.
Danny and Tony are doing no better than they were here. And Kyle Anderson is still worthless and LOL @ Jon Simmons. Who else?
Baynes CoJo... not saying they are better elsewhere just that they are just playing just as well as they did in the Spurs elsewhere that’s pretty easy to see. In Danny’s case better than he’s played in over 3 seasons.
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