Game Thread: Spurs @ Timberwolves — Wed. (11/28) - 7:00/C (8:00am Riga Time)

[NASpurs]

Losing your best defensive players and replacing them with some of the worst defensive players in the league hurts

I just find it odd that Pop is the same that built a team that made the Finals and won a le with TWO 3&D players starting next to each other while most teams in the league didn't even have a single one..he had 2 of the top 3-5 of those guys at the same time..

He used to be ahead of the game in every facet..Father Time is cruel..

Or trading your premier defenders for DeMar and a ing big man when Toronto is stacked with wings

[SAGirl]

Who cares what he says. He is only accountable to himself, and the media is so cowed they have given him a lifetime pass.

Think about that article about Bruce Bowen getting "fired" for speaking his mind.

[superbigtime]

whoa this team SUCKS.

[SAGirl]

Losing your best defensive players and replacing them with some of the worst defensive players in the league hurts

I just find it odd that Pop is the same that built a team that made the Finals and won a le with TWO 3&D players starting next to each other while most teams in the league didn't even have a single one..he had 2 of the top 3-5 of those guys at the same time..

He used to be ahead of the game in every facet..Father Time is cruel..

Agreed. He has started believing his own shtick about the system.

[SAGirl]

He's an enigma for sure. The problem is that the spurs had veteran leaders for 20 years that they don't have now. Lma just doesn't have it. Kawhi didn't have it. Guys like mills can amplify a leader but can't be a leader themselves. That's why Murray is important. Pop is going to have to figure out how to motivate this team without Duncan and Manu.

As far as lma, I say keep him as hope he adjusts to a limited role as a defender. He's still a mobile tall guy. Poetl might be our best big soon, so lma could take the gasol role of bench spark and backbone. None of these hopes are great, poetl isn't likely to be an all star. But lma isn't suited to join a contender (unless they're really desperate like Houston). He's not a cancer, but he's cancerish.

good point K

[sasaint]

He's an enigma for sure. The problem is that the spurs had veteran leaders for 20 years that they don't have now. Lma just doesn't have it. Kawhi didn't have it. Guys like mills can amplify a leader but can't be a leader themselves. That's why Murray is important. Pop is going to have to figure out how to motivate this team without Duncan and Manu.

As far as lma, I say keep him as hope he adjusts to a limited role as a defender. He's still a mobile tall guy. Poetl might be our best big soon, so lma could take the gasol role of bench spark and backbone. None of these hopes are great, poetl isn't likely to be an all star. But lma isn't suited to join a contender (unless they're really desperate like Houston). He's not a cancer, but he's cancerish.

He has not shown willingness to adapt, and he insists on shooting those 18-foot turnaround fade-aways - the most inefficient shot in the game. He is not mobile for a modern big man, his game is antiquated, and his at ude stinks unless he gets his touches - which have been a total waste this season. The game has passed both him and Pop by, and the Spurs need to move on from both. Overdue, in fact.

Oh, and he has a salary that the team cannot afford for somebody in Pau's role.

[SAGirl]

He has not shown willingness to adapt, and he insists on shooting those 18-foot turnaround fade-aways - the most inefficient shot in the game. He is not mobile for a modern big man, his game is antiquated, and his at ude stinks unless he gets his touches - which have been a total waste this season. The game has passed both him and Pop by, and the Spurs need to move on from both. Overdue, in fact.

Oh, and he has a salary that the team cannot afford for somebody in Pau's role.

I think it was one of my faves HarlemHeat37 that used to call him the Big Man Carmelo. He is more useful than Melo bc he still played defense but right now he's not looking all that good.

[sasaint]

I think it was one of my faves HarlemHeat37 that used to call him the Big Man Carmelo. He is more useful than Melo bc he still played defense but right now he's not looking all that good.

He was inefficient back in Portland, which is why some of us didn't want us to sign him in the first place. "Inefficient" and "unathletic" are not adjectives you want to describe your team's "stars".

[SAGirl]

He was inefficient back in Portland, which is why some of us didn't want us to sign him in the first place. "Inefficient" and "unathletic" are not adjectives you want to describe your team's "stars".

Well to him Spurs added Derozan, who I wasn't a fan of, bc I generally dislike glass cannons and I am more forgiving of flawed guys who played defense, and Derozan will also be choking in the playoffs to boot. Frankly I don't know why some fans want to see this show in the playoffs, but here we are.

[sasaint]

Well to him Spurs added Derozan, who I wasn't a fan of, bc I generally dislike glass cannons and I am more forgiving of flawed guys who played defense, and Derozan will also be choking in the playoffs to boot. Frankly I don't know why some fans want to see this show in the playoffs, but here we are.

Exactly, Pop is only concerned about the short term; he wouldn't be around long enough to see a deal pan out like we could have gotten from the Clips, so we end up with another mid-range guy who can't play D. Pop's interests and those of the organization are no longer very well aligned, and Pop is making moves in his interest more than the Spurs'.

[Slippy]

The lineup to start the second by pop was the kiss of death for the spurs. Interchange Bryn, demar and dante between marco patti and davis. It went from a 4 point game to 23 by the half

[r0drig0lac]

DeRozan has been one of the few bright spots this year, definitely would love him to stay.

Everyone else should be on the trade block. Except dejounte and walker.

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Biggest fear is this team is destined for a 41-41 record.

anyone who really believes that this roster can win 41 games is delirious (with all respect)

Narrator: They Don’t.

Honestly, do think there is any truth to Pop not having the locker room? How can a team be down double digits in over 50% of their games?

bad roster construction and lack of talent (and some poster actually laughed when I said that the nets who had no picks and future in less than three seasons have a roster with more talent and better built than ours), people keep talking about motivation, when it is clear that the team players do not have the physical or technical conditions to be compe ive

[Spurs da champs]

anyone who really believes that this roster can win 41 games is delirious (with all respect)

I really hope you're right. The problem is Pop wont realize this and unless he aids in the tank such a record isn't far fetched especially given DeRozan & LMA's ability to show up every other game.

[TimDunkem]

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anyone who really believes that this roster can win 41 games is delirious (with all respect)



bad roster construction and lack of talent (and some poster actually laughed when I said that the nets who had no picks and future in less than three seasons have a roster with more talent and better built than ours), people keep talking about motivation, when it is clear that the team players do not have the physical or technical conditions to be compe ive

DPG really, REALLY doesn't want to believe that this team is just bad.

[K...]

Does anyone want a game thread for raptors vs warriors? Let's not fight it. With the Spurs sucking, the San Antonio raptors should be elevated as the main franchise reppee by this forum.

[sasaint]

Think about that article about Bruce Bowen getting "fired" for speaking his mind.

Yeah. Professional leagues, their sponsors, their broadcasters, and the media that covers them are all a racket, in the sense that there is no real independence to objectively evaluate those leagues and their individual members. The NBA is no worse than the NFL, really.

[SpurPadre]

Does anyone want a game thread for raptors vs warriors? Let's not fight it. With the Spurs sucking, the San Antonio raptors should be elevated as the main franchise reppee by this forum.

LDN is still LDN. But Kawhi is ing Judas, tbh. the Raptors.

[sasaint]

Does anyone want a game thread for raptors vs warriors? Let's not fight it. With the Spurs sucking, the San Antonio raptors should be elevated as the main franchise reppee by this forum.

Good One!

[DPG21920]

DPG really, REALLY doesn't want to believe that this team is just bad.

Well, as bad as things are now, I do not believe this is the real version of this team. They obviously may not reach their ceiling but they aren’t even playing at their average.

I know the roster has flaws and pointed them out numerous times; however I didn’t see things being this rocky. We shall see

[Mugen]

Well, as bad as things are now, I do not believe this is the real version of this team. They obviously may not reach their ceiling but they aren’t even playing at their average.

I know the roster has flaws and pointed them out numerous times; however I didn’t see things being this rocky. We shall see

Deeps what did you think was going to happen when literally their only competent wing defender went out for the season? When the front office refused to make any other 3 & D additions besides Quincy Pondexter and Dante Cunningham?

Did you really think Pop would get them to top 15 D status?

[DPG21920]

Deeps what did you think was going to happen when literally their only competent wing defender went out for the season? When the front office refused to make any other 3 & D additions besides Quincy Pondexter and Dante Cunningham?

Did you really think Pop would get them to top 15 D status?

I thought the offensive gains would be enough to sustain. There are a lot of poor defensive teams; always is. I figured SA would be compe ive most nights because they have some legit talent with LMA/DeRozan

[Mugen]

I thought the offensive gains would be enough to sustain. There are a lot of poor defensive teams; always is. I figured SA would be compe ive most nights because they have some legit talent with LMA/DeRozan

Fair enough and you were right for the first 8 games. But I thought the roster construction was absolutely terrible even with all the Kawhi BS. And I really, really think that Pop has done a very poor job of maximizing any talent that he does have on the roster so far tbh.

[DPG21920]

Fair enough and you were right for the first 8 games. But I thought the roster construction was absolutely terrible even with all the Kawhi BS. And I really, really think that Pop has done a very poor job of maximizing any talent that he does have on the roster so far tbh.

I’m trying hard not to judge SA on this season. They were in a tough spot and had to do things quickly and without proper planning. Clock is ticking towards the trade deadline however; if this team doesn’t improve SA has to take a hard look at things. But this next off season will be critical as they will at least know what they have.