yup still play hard each game, tanking wont make you nearly as better. just look at phx
you guys are giving coaches way too much credit. they are swinging maybe half a dozen wins or less a year. teams in this league live and die by their talent on the court, or lack of. spur locked in a losing season before it even started with their terrible front office moves. any functional re can figure out it's very easy to score against whatever unathletic midget shooting guard is playing PG, a g-league SF, a mentally checked out LMAlpha, or an unmotivated defrozen.
The spurs are going to have t figure it out, what is the team?
without a clear HOF leader, the spurs are just another team,albeit one with a competent FO for now. If Lonnie, Murray, and peotl are enough to build, then grab a complimentary player. If it isn't then the spurs are ed because a tank isn't enough to get HOF players in any specific year. you need "the process" at that point.
I have to disagree.
You are not winning without talented players AND you are not winning without good coaching. It's not one or the other, both are necessary.
I don't understand why professional coaches are so disrespected. We all understand an accountant, a plumber, an engineer or a web designer are professionals with a certain level of knowledge and ability. Sure there are the good ones and the mediocre ones, but how stupid would be to think that any of us can do their jobs better than them just because we have watched them do a 10% of their job on TV?
Ty lue won a championship against a 73 win warrior team. how did phil jackson look when he didnt have jordan or prime kobe and gasol? kerr was out for half a year and mediocre coaches like mike brown and luke walton took over and the warrior didn't perform any worse. coaching matters on the margins but that's it. otherwise they are glorified baseball managers whose most important role is not ing up rotations. Pop's biggest failure isn't game day, it's the atrocious roster he put together months before the season started.
Valid argument in case Ty Lue coached by himself the team. The coaching team has much more members. The head coach is just the manager of the team but there are between 15-20 professional coaches working on a daily basis.
As I said: it's impossible to win without talented players. Also, you can look to a large list of "super" teams with a lot of talented players that failed and didn't manage to win. Just FYI, ALL the teams have coaches working for their goals.
And again, I'm not saying coaches are more important than players, just saying they have a key role as well, they are prepared professionals that deserve some respect. Of course, you can criticize their decisions but don't forget they have 50 times more information than you about what's going on in that team, what are the players supposed to do, what are the other teams really doing on the court, etc.
I'm just demanding some respect and humility.
Exactly. In terms of strategy, coaching used to matter more before the league became genized. Virtually everyone but the Spurs is aware of how you need to be built now and once you stumble into it, like the Warriors and Raptors, there's very little actual coaching required.
They don't have to make big/small, offense/defense decisions (things that can alter the geometry/spacing of the floor, the style of defense you play, etc.). Instead, they get to have it all because it's inherent in their best lineups.
I disagree, 10-12 is about where they probably should be without Murray in this conference. Especially with Aldridge ting himself when having to share touches being something reasonably predictable.
Not much we can do with roster unless Lonnie ends up being a sort of Donovan Mitc #2 (like Pop would let that happen even if it was feasible anyway) With Murray out and with everyone we let walk or traded, we just flat out suck.
Shut it down? I wouldn't say that. Let's see what we have in Lonnie, White, Poodle and I guess Metu
man this FO lately...
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Spurs don't have the talent to go anywhere.Spurs "fans" ready to execute the coach after 20 games after having 20 consecutive playoff appearances and 5 championships.
Its amazing to me the hatred some of these dip s have for Pop. You would think the Spurs have been the Washington Generals for the past 20 years. Pop has his warts, but c'mon.Spurs don't have the talent to go anywhere.
Not to worry. A couple down years will see the shedding of these leg riders who hopped on during a championship season or just after.Its amazing to me the hatred some of these dip s have for Pop. You would think the Spurs have been the Washington Generals for the past 20 years. Pop has his warts, but c'mon.
We no longer have scouts like Danny Ferry. This is why we are seeing so many duds but that puts us on par with the rest of the league. Spurs were an anomaly for years with their "diamond in the rough" discoveries that shined once put next to the big 3 and that team atmosphere. Now it's a cluster .
this team..tank and move to Vegas already...
it's not really hatred, it's more of knowing he's one of the best coaches ever if not the best and him not living up to it cause he's not invested enough. Tonight against Portland you can see Pop actually coaching. Talking to players when they took a bad shot. Taking a time out when they have lapses on defense. Being in the huddle talking to players. When's the last time he has done that this season? And being that he's the one constructing the roster, he deserves part of the blame. I still think he can right the ship with a trade and hard coachingIts amazing to me the hatred some of these dip s have for Pop. You would think the Spurs have been the Washington Generals for the past 20 years. Pop has his warts, but c'mon.
You can absolutely slam him and RC for this roster, although Kawhi debacle really screwed this team. I still think last year was one of his better coaching jobs. Sometimes I think it is hard to separate Pop the coach from Pop the GM.
Pop hasn't helped; starting a player in Cunningham that is such a non threat on offense and meh on defense when Bertans was always the better option.
Some of the Spurs struggles can be blamed on Aldridge for sure but also why are the Spur consistently towards the bottom of the league in 3pt attempts in a league where shooting 3s are increasingly valued. I don't think that this team is some juggernaut but I do think that better coaching should have them higher up in the standings.
Trade: LaMarcus Aldrigdge, Demar DeRozan, Rudy Gay, Pattie Mills, and if there's anyone out there for Gasol. Guys like Belinelli, Cunningham and Pondexter, honestly who cares. Outside of Beli who signed for three years.
Insaid this team was borderline 8th 9th seed tbqh
Sure we are a hit worse right now but due to major injuries
Why is anyone surprised at our record????
Some nigas live in fantasy land
Wouldn't the spacing and 3pt shooting be worse if Murray was playing? You can argue his defense would help make up for that but would it be enough?
Forbes is obviously a better shooter than Murray but Pop was going to let Murray run and get out in transition like he did with Parker. Plus Murray's shot apparently looked much better. He probably would have been less of a fit with DeRozen but his defense on guard would have significantly improved the defense.
Bertans spacing the floor with another slasher able to get to the rim would have probably allowed for him to get more good looks plus Bertans is also good in transition impart because he can trail and get open looks from 3.
ConcurrSpurs don't have the talent to go anywhere.
For the first time in a very long time, this seasons spurs team hasnt figured out how to play defense yet .
Murray is a much better basketball player than Forbes, so this is it, like two levels above.
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