Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer Bertans stay and Mills and Forbes be traded instead but the money has to match.
I'd be all over trying to get Ariza in San Antonio. And a Patty Mills trade would make some sense for both sides. Not excited about losing Patty, because he's played better this year than most people give him credit for, but with Forbes playing the de facto starting point and with White and Walker/Belinelli at PG and SG, it'd make a lot more sense to have another SF especially one who can play defense.
Mills contract marches up better with Arizas, than Bertans, tbh.
But a one for one wouldn't work. Someone else would have to be added, tbh.
mills and belinelli for ariza and bender?
I doubt the Spurs front office would move Mills and I don't think the Phoenix Suns see Patty Mills as their solution to their point guard problem. I would love Ariza on the Spurs though.
Obviously Mills for Ariza would be ideal, but the Spurs wouldn't do it. The Suns might, but would probably want a minor asset attached.
Bertans, Belinelli and Pondexter works. Already loaded with youth, in desperate need of 3-point shooting and basically done with Anderson already, the Suns might do this, with the idea being Bertans would be more valuable than something like a 2nd round pick or two.
Unless Pop actually plans to give Bertans a consistent role going forward (doubtful), Spurs might have interest too. Sign Babbitt as a replacement . . .
Starters: Gay, Ariza, Aldridge, DeRozan, Forbes
Bench: Mills, Gasol, White, Cunningham, Babbitt, Poeltl, Walker
Deep bench/G-League/inactive: Metu, Moore, Eubanks, Murray
Who needs 3 pointers? Not us according to you.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if PATFO mortgaged our future to make the playoffs and get swept. Can't go out in the lottery, no no no. Here's the Toronto pick for an old scrub on a 1 year contract.
Ariza would give us 3 pointers WITH defense. Funny concept, huh?
That has now become a fallacy.
Trading 2nd best Spur.
IIRC the Rockets were better with Ariza off the floor last year as well?
Ariza is quickly becoming one of the most overrated players in the league. Only Iguodala's corpse comes close, who funny enough PATFO were chasing in free agency
His departure is not the reason Rockets are losing games. Injuries and CP3's decline are.
10/21 loss to Clippers - no CP3
10/24 loss to Jazz - no CP3
10/26 loss to Clippers - no Harden
10/30 loss to Blazers - no Harden
11/08 loss to Thunder - no Gordon
11/24 loss to Cavs - no CP3
11/26 loss to Wizards - no CP3
11/28 loss to Mavs - no CP3
Thats 8 out of their total 12 losses where they were missing one of their best players.
That Toronto pick isn't gonna be worth unless Mute Cancer gets a REAL injury.
First round pick/4 year rookie contract >>> washed up POS on a 1yr deal
Use it in a package with our own pick to move. Doesn't matter, still better than pulling off win-now moves with a hideous roster like this one.
Can you say with a straight face that our current scrubs outside DeRozan, Gay and LMA are better than Ariza?Ariza is quickly becoming one of the most overrated players in the league. Only Iguodala's corpse comes close, who funny enough PATFO were chasing in free agency
His departure is not the reason Rockets are losing games. Injuries and CP3's decline are.
10/21 loss to Clippers - no CP3
10/24 loss to Jazz - no CP3
10/26 loss to Clippers - no Harden
10/30 loss to Blazers - no Harden
11/08 loss to Thunder - no Gordon
11/24 loss to Cavs - no CP3
11/26 loss to Wizards - no CP3
11/28 loss to Mavs - no CP3
Thats 8 out of their total 12 losses where they were missing one of their best players.
I can say with a straight face that we're ed with or without a washed up ArizaAll the more reason to not mortgage our future for Pop's pride.
I get what you're saying but I don't see PATFO settling for not making the playoffs. In that case, getting Ariza now would make sense.
That was a one year deal and the Suns overpaid bc they are sucking really hard and it's the only way to get a veteran to join their team. Paddy's deal was 4 years and well you know the rest. Not the same universe.
If they can trade one of our scrubs to do it, then
Don't worry he's not getting traded. If anything, Bertans might, and I still think Pop doesn't like midseason trades.Trading 2nd best Spur.
Ariza would be more about what he and a trade would represent (a competent 3 and D wing and better roster balance) than his current caliber. He's definitely on the edge of the cliff, they damn sure shouldn't give up any future asset for him and probably shouldn't even part with Bertans (if Pop were willing to give him a consistent role).
/A good question is, if you have Ariza, what playing time is Bertans going to get? He might want to get the heck out of dodge I am thinking. You know Pop is not going to cut minutes to his legion of guards. If there is a SF incoming it's like Bertans minutes are getting cut. Just a though. Still I am not sure on this, I'd give Davis a few more games to see if he is working out in the SL for real b4 pulling the trigger on something like this. I haven't watched Ariza but playing in an awful team, PJ Tucker looked pretty miserable in the Suns too.
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