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    Losing 1 year as I see it. Where would they want to go? Both coming from losing organizations. This should be nothing new to them. And i'm pretty sure they are more optimistic then you btw.
    Toronto and Portland weren't losing organizations. Demar did not want to leave Toronto and was upset when he was traded.

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    Lol PATFO fluffers think we're purposely tanking. No, friends. This is Pop without HOF talent around him.
    Name one coach who won with no talent on a consistent basis.

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    Name one coach who won with no talent on a consistent basis.
    Pop is the one that chose the talent he has around him, tbh. Any way you look at it, Pop has no out.

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    Name one coach who won with no talent on a consistent basis.
    I thought this guy was good enough to make the playoffs with subs ute teachers? DeRozan and Aldridge alone should be enough to make the playoffs. Better coaches have made it with less. Doc Rivers is a perfect example. Look at that Clippers roster.

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    I thought this guy was good enough to make the playoffs with subs ute teachers? DeRozan and Aldridge alone should be enough to make the playoffs. Better coaches have made it with less. Doc Rivers is a perfect example. Look at that Clippers roster.
    Tbh

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    Rudy should be able to nab a 1st rounder from a playoff team/contender right?

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    Rudy should be able to nab a 1st rounder from a playoff team/contender right?
    Absolutely. If Mason Plumlee, Nerlens, and Bogdanovic netted first round picks.. Gay could as well.

    Unfortunately Pop's ego will get in the way.
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    I thought this guy was good enough to make the playoffs with subs ute teachers? DeRozan and Aldridge alone should be enough to make the playoffs. Better coaches have made it with less. Doc Rivers is a perfect example. Look at that Clippers roster.
    Holy heck let's give him coach of the year for 23 games into the season. Doc has done with more talent when he had cp3 and Blake etc.

    The problem is Aldridge. This is not a big man's game anymore and he is so predictable.

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    But when was the last time the spurs were plunging under .500? Decades ago, before Jim right?

    This time, you're not getting another Jim through the draft, sorry and you can't attract top tier free agents. If pockets start getting hit, relocation might become a real possibility
    Yup. Cause Seattle is that hot spot to attract all those free agents. Who wouldn't want to live where it snows AND you get the added bonus of sun almost 100 days a year!!

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    Holy heck let's give him coach of the year for 23 games into the season. Doc has done with more talent when he had cp3 and Blake etc.
    Lol you can't seriously say with a straight face that Doc had close to the talent Pop had in those 2013-2015 years. Even then, he still sent Pop fishing.


    The problem is Aldridge. This is not a big man's game anymore and he is so predictable.
    Guess who recruited Aldridge and gave him an extension that hasn't even kicked in yet?


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    Spurs don't have some magic formula to make hall of fame players... Stop this rhetoric... Every team has drafted someone that overperformed their draft position... It happens
    They don't necessarily make HOFers, but they do have a proven track record in the draft. You can point to the obvious (Ginobli, Parker, Kawhi) who were all taken either in the late lottery or later. They all turned out to be HOFers in their own right. But less obviously are the role players they pick up that consistently out perform their draft position. They turn picks like hill into service payers that canbe traded away for people like Kawhi. Or players like splitter who become starting caliber players on a championship team. Bottom line is we do draft well, everyone knows it. So while we probably aren't going to turn more late second rounders into HOFers, we very well could get a Kawhi type player in the lottery.

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    Lol you can't seriously say with a straight face that Doc had close to the talent Pop had in those 2013-2015 years. Even then, he still sent Pop fishing.




    Guess who recruited Aldridge and gave him an extension that hasn't even kicked in yet?

    So the one series they beat them he gets all the glory? Don't they have three series wins in 10 years?

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    So the one series they beat them he gets all the glory? Don't they have three series wins in 10 years?
    Who cares about Doc. That's not the point. Stop deflecting.

    DeRozan and Aldridge are good regular season players and should be enough to sneak into the playoffs, not be 14th in the West. Why is the GOAT coach getting blown out by 30+ three times in a week? Who gave Aldridge the "problem" an extension?

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    Yup. Cause Seattle is that hot spot to attract all those free agents. Who wouldn't want to live where it snows AND you get the added bonus of sun almost 100 days a year!!
    And add the Free Healthcare and Free College and all you can shoot up Drugs great place to live. But if you make over 75 grand forget it the rest of your money going to TAXES

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    Unintentionally tanking

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    Spurs don't have some magic formula to make hall of fame players... Stop this rhetoric... Every team has drafted someone that overperformed their draft position... It happens
    Okay. Or they won’t, whateves.

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    The issue is our offense design sucks. The reason we get into a huge hole is because there is zero ball movement with the starting five. Aldridge, Gay, and DDR all are black holes and just jack up shots whenever they touch the ball. Forbes is adding to that list to with his moronic baseline fadeaway
    They are losing because of non existent defense. Even without an NBA starting-level point guard, offense somehow produces points. But on defense it is just highways to the basket, and wide open threes. Defense is at least 50% effort...

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    i wanted to blow it up last season... spurs would've been a year ahead in a rebuild.

    would've gotten good trade value for la... tanked and gotten a high draft pick... and then could've traded kawhi on top of that.

    spurs could've even gotten something for manu last season/given him a chance to be on a contender.

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    Bump..

    This is bottom line and the uncomfortable truth: you are not going anywhere with 30+ year-olds Aldridge and Derozan as your top two dogs.

    They have made their bed and now they will lie in it: this team will be the definition of a gutless and moribund mediocrity for the next few years.

    If they still have any clue, they would cut bait this summer..

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    Bump..

    This is bottom line and the uncomfortable truth: you are not going anywhere with 30+ year-olds Aldridge and Derozan as your top two dogs.

    They have made their bed and now they will lie in it: this team will be the definition of a gutless and moribund mediocrity for the next few years.

    If they still have any clue, they would cut bait this summer..
    They wont.This is our core until 2021

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    Bump..

    This is bottom line and the uncomfortable truth: you are not going anywhere with 30+ year-olds Aldridge and Derozan as your top two dogs.

    They have made their bed and now they will lie in it: this team will be the definition of a gutless and moribund mediocrity for the next few years.

    If they still have any clue, they would cut bait this summer..
    Lol. Welcome to life after the Big 3. They will be better next year for sure though.

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    PATFO should look at the Clippers this year and feel in' ashamed..

    The fact that supposedly our two All-Stars have missed a combined 5 games and yet we are still going to finish two or three games behind LAC who got rid of their best player at the deadline is a testimony of the bankruptcy of their gambit on this LMA/Derozan core..

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    They wont.This is our core until 2021
    That's my hunch; they are not that stupid to not realize it, but they are content with it..

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    PATFO should look at the Clippers this year and feel in' ashamed..

    The fact that supposedly our two All-Stars have missed a combined 5 games and yet we are still going to finish two or three games behind LAC who got rid of their best player at the deadline is a testimony of the bankruptcy of their gambit on this LMA/Derozan core..
    Clippers had a better piece to trade(Blake Griffin) that wasn't used by his uncle to force himself out of LA and they got some pieces from that trade and they have a billionaire owner and they are in a big market and...
    Bottom line and i think you will agree with me, we need to trade/get rid of our two former all stars(they far from it now and in the future)and tank for the next two seasons. That is the only plan to escape being a treadmill of mediocrity.

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    PATFO should look at the Clippers this year and feel in' ashamed..

    The fact that supposedly our two All-Stars have missed a combined 5 games and yet we are still going to finish two or three games behind LAC who got rid of their best player at the deadline is a testimony of the bankruptcy of their gambit on this LMA/Derozan core..
    But that's the thing, Harris was their best offensive player in perception only. In terms of impact, Gallinari and Williams outpaced him, while Harrell was close. Overall, they came out of the trade deadline a deeper, more well rounded team.

    The DeRozan of the past few seasons was a flawed, low end star. The DeRozan of this season isn't even that. He flat out hasn't been as impactful as the likes of Fox, Hield, Gallinari and Williams.

    Him, the coaching staff or a combination thereof, better pull their heads out of their ass and at least get him back to last season's 3pt rate/%. Without that, as his ft rate plateaus or further plummets, he's essentially on the verge of becoming a lower IQ version of post prime Parker/Wade.

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