Rockets fans want to lump our teams together lol.

[DAF86]

They can have Aldridge, we would take Capella.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I would have never guessed before the season that the best team from Texas this year would be the Mavericks.

[exstatic]

I would have never guessed before the season that the best team from Texas this year would be the Mavericks.

You might not guess that after the season, either. We're roughly 1/3 through.

SPAM

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You might not guess that after the season, either. We're roughly 1/3 through.

SPAM

I'm with you.

[exstatic]

I'm with you.

I think Walker is the key. He could be like a turbocharger kicking in. People think that Pop won't play him, but history doesn't show that. If you're a high enough draft pick, you'll stick and play with the big club. 2011: Kawhi stuck, played, and started by the end of the year, but Cory, drafted late in the first that same year, spent a lot of time in Austin. Murray, drafted late first, spent a lot of time in Austin. White, drafted late in the first, spent a lot of time in Austin. We just don't have those mid first rounders that often. The Spurs, according to sauces, had White in the top 10 on their board.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think Walker is the key. He could be like a turbocharger kicking in. People think that Pop won't play him, but history doesn't show that. If you're a high enough draft pick, you'll stick and play with the big club. 2011: Kawhi stuck, played, and started by the end of the year, but Cory, drafted late in the first that same year, spent a lot of time in Austin. Murray, drafted late first, spent a lot of time in Austin. White, drafted late in the first, spent a lot of time in Austin. We just don't have those mid first rounders that often. The Spurs, according to sauces, had White in the top 10 on their board.

I'm excited to see him play with the big club. I think a lot of Pop's contingency plan with Kawhi's departure revolved around Murray, and I do think Walker played a large role in those plans. Losing both, along with everything else that went down in the off season, certainly sets the team back.

[Maddog]

It's not even close.

CP3 is already starting to look like age is catching up with him, and they are stuck paying him ~/$40M per through 2022. As his speed leaves him, he is no longer going to be the same player or defender.

Aldridge's game relies less on his athleticism, and Spurs are "only" paying him ~$25M per over the next three years. Big difference.

Not to mention that the Spurs have young assets. Murray and Walker look like they could be studs. White has a chance to be a good player if he can get it together. Poetl's floor is at least a serviceable big man. Pau's contract is likely gone after this season, and Mills will come off the books soon enough.

The only young player that is worth a damn on the Rockets is Capela, and he's almost making as much as Aldridge to just chase rebounds and catch lobs.

The Rockets sold out their future and went all in on this season to get back to the WCF or better, and they are crashing and burning in spectacular fashion.

I agree 100%
In 21/22 the Rockets are commited to 106 million, with only 3 players of which one will be a 36 year CP3 and a 32 year old James Harden

I like Capela, but wonder how he would od on another team without CP3 and Harden?

[HarlemHeat37]

Have to salute Chris Paul, he's a cold-ass hustler

Influenced the CBA to allow himself to get paid as much as possible while visibly breaking down as a player at a position that ages poorly..

[exstatic]

Have to salute Chris Paul, he's a cold-ass hustler

Influenced the CBA to allow himself to get paid as much as possible while visibly breaking down as a player at a position that ages poorly..

It's funny that people complain about Patty's contract. The WHOLE THING, over 4 years, is like 10M more than ONE YEAR of CP3's deal.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Murray's ceiling is basically Shaun livingston

[NASpurs]

[SAGirl]

interesting plot to hear about some other team's implosion. If one of the Spurs were to come out with something like this they would be traded faster than SJAX.

But privately I don't think Spurs are having fun either.

[SuperCam]

Well they need a Capela and not a Murray let's begin there.


Murray is still a young guard who barely played his rook season truth be told and looked incredibly raw in very few minutes he did play. His second season he got 2nd team all D and that might be considered his real "rook" season. It was the first time he was allowed to play. This third season he was going to get more freedom to play his game, free to run around, push the tempo, play to his strengths etc. Yup it's a homer take, but they have looked good already at the ladder they are at and can climb so much more.

He was allowed to play and the offense looked like whenever he'd be running it, much worse than an aged Tony Parker orchestrating it. atrocious shooter too, not nkiltina bad but he'd be lucky to shoot as good as patrick beverly so what does he really offer? a good perimeter defending PG in a league in which there are 12 all star caliber point guards who because of how athletic they are and how good their handles are they can't really be guarded one on one anyways especially with the current rules?

no one gives a about murray outside this board tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

He was allowed to play and the offense looked like whenever he'd be running it, much worse than an aged Tony Parker orchestrating it. atrocious shooter too, not nkiltina bad but he'd be lucky to shoot as good as patrick beverly so what does he really offer? a good perimeter defending PG in a league in which there are 12 all star caliber point guards who because of how athletic they are and how good their handles are they can't really be guarded one on one anyways especially with the current rules?

no one gives a about murray outside this board tbh.

My favorite post was by that JPaco idiot saying the Spurs have some interesting prospects in Poeltl, White, Metu, and some GLeague player then follows it by naming young Rockets players and saying "(who?)"

[NameLess Scrub]

It's hard for me to get too hyped about a PG with cuestionable handles who doesn't seem to have learned to shoot properly. The athleticism and defense is exciting, but I don't know if we can expect more than that..

I'd be glad if he developed into a star of course.

[exstatic]

This is ing karma for the way he Kawhied himself out of New Orleans after he was involved in the CP3 to LAC trade, going the other way.

[therealtruth]

Murray's ceiling is basically Shaun livingston

He could be a better defensive version of TP once he nails the jumpshot down.

[J_Paco]

My favorite post was by that JPaco idiot saying the Spurs have some interesting prospects in Poeltl, White, Metu, and some GLeague player then follows it by naming young Rockets players and saying "(who?)"

You are just a hating ass .

All three of those guys plus Walker and Murray are a good starting point. Clearly, like back in 2008 - 2011 the front-office needs to find a linchpin/stud (ala Kawhi) and/or quality swingman/combo forward prospect (ala Mile Bridges) and their future looks much, much better than Houston.

Houston's young talent consists of two flame outs in Michael Carter-Williams, Marquesse Chriss and Vince Edwards.

Capela is practically a finished product at this point. Catch lobs, putbacks, rebound and defend....

Also, Metu ceiling isn't nearly as high as the 1st rounders but his physical profile matches up with a lot of modern day PF/C's.

Yeah, but just continue hurling empty insults and bringing little intelligent or thoughtful discussion to the boards, "Kawhi Blow Job Brigade" leader.

[JeffDuncan]

By the way, Ruck the Fockets.

[JPB]

interesting plot to hear about some other team's implosion. If one of the Spurs were to come out with something like this they would be traded faster than SJAX.

But privately I don't think Spurs are having fun either.

They're just quitting on Don'tToni.

[Clipper Nation]

Both teams are actually extremely similar at the moment.

Harden and DeRozan hate defense and the playoffs. Paul and Aldridge are 33 years old and received extensions for the next 3 years. Both teams got rid of their best defenders in the offseason. Home crowds are the worst in the league. Both have 70 year old coaches who don't adjust (only one got to coach 5 HOF's).

At this point I'm not even sure which team has a brighter future. They have Capela the perfect modern day Center. Our two guards with potential have 3 combined knee surgeries this early in their careers. It will all depend on if PATFO put the team over their egos and truly rebuild. Trade Rudy and Aldridge for picks, get Fatty's contract the out of here etc.

Don't forget how both teams have two of the most overrated GMs of all time. Despite all the analytics posturing, Morey is the typical antiquated NBA GM who's obsessed with chuckers and "big names" over team ball. He got fleeced in the CP0 trade by the real GOAT GM Jerry West. And then there's RC, who only cares about "culture" and "corporate knowledge," not talent.