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    Highly doubt any team would take Fatty even for spare change.

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    Spacing is created by shooters with range. Cutting and passing to the weak side doesn't create spacing; it takes advantage of it. At any rate. DeMar is not stellar at cutting/moving off-ball. He needs the ball in his hands; that's precisely how he gets to his spots.
    I am sorry but that is not accurate. At all. But feel free to try and stand still to create spacing, see how it goes....

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    I am sorry but that is not accurate. At all. But feel free to try and stand still to create spacing, see how it goes....
    That's just a spurious argument. Basketball is not a stationary game. But you feel free to try to create spacing by cutting and weakside passing when the defenders are all clogging the middle because they have no need to defend brick layers on outside shots.

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    2. Dante Cunningham, Bryn Forbes and a 2nd round pick to Pistons for Stanley Johnson and Jose Calderon

    Pistons get a wing to replace Johnson off the bench and a young 3-point shooter. Spurs get Johnson so they can resign him with bird rights and a veteran back up PG
    I don't see Spurs trading for the other players you suggest but Stanley Johnson looks like the kind of player the team needs and might have a Spurs personality. I also agree with Pistons needing 3pt shooting around Griffin and Drummond.
    Casey signed Calderon (they worked well together in Toronto) and I believe Jose will finish the season in Detroit. I'm not sure if the Pistons would be interested in Forbes and anything else Spurs could offer to make numbers work but this would be a small but great trade for San Antonio. A physical, defensive forward for Forbes? It's a no-brainer.

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    Would you guys really wanna do Forbes and the Toronto pick for Osman and a second rounder?

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    Balance is the key.

    2018. Western Conference Finals. Rockets and Warriors go small-ball and often play their 5 men behind the 3pt line with some of the best perimeter players of the planet. Defenses go switch all. The pace slows down, the spacing worsens, the scoring is reduced.

    Inside game is essential. A team must score in the paint, attack the rim so the defense collapses and shooters have their space. You not only score in the paint through low post 1on1s but also with penetrations and cuts. Do not forget offensive rebound. And finally, FT obtained from fouls as a result of attacking the rim.
    So inside game is the plan A that makes defense react and allow the threes. High volume 3pt shooting teams have tremendous inside power (driving, above the rim finishers, p&rollers, etc.).

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    Would you guys really wanna do Forbes and the Toronto pick for Osman and a second rounder?
    I'm not sure if Cleveland has their 2nd this year but if they do I'd make that trade.

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    For the last time, Patty Mills is not being traded, period.

    Sorry to on your dreams everybody.

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    Grunfeld is not a smart GM and has to make a move with Beal being the odd man out cause nobody wants that John Wall max contract. Throw in a pick or something

    https://basketball.realgm.com/tradec..._trade/7141397






    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7m382uj
    Just how is Beal the odd man out, not Porter?

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    Why the would the Wizards trade Beal, their best young player, for a declining, soon-to-be 34 year-old LaMarcus Aldridge...

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    Why the would the Wizards trade Beal, their best young player, for a declining, soon-to-be 34 year-old LaMarcus Aldridge...
    To get a second round pick?

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    Just how is Beal the odd man out, not Porter?
    Beal and Wall have a running feud, and NOBODY wants Wall's contract.

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    Beal and Wall have a running feud, and NOBODY wants Wall's contract.
    I know this is a dumb take but would the ball clubs be willing to exchange Wall and CP3? Separates Beal and Wall. Also, CP3 is a true point guard who would enhance the team and the contracts are similar. The only deal breaker would be CP3's age but hey, he didn't show up a fatso to training camp.

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    Washington has to blow it up. They have to. Look there. Otto time baby.

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    I don't have a clue. I really invest too much time on the Spurs to even speculate about deals that don't involve them. You could have a fine idea for all I know.

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    Why the would the Wizards trade Beal, their best young player, for a declining, soon-to-be 34 year-old LaMarcus Aldridge...
    I don't think they would. That's why I would like to see us trade LMA and DeMar for Beal and Porter, a disappointing player and a good player for a disappointing player and a good player. I would rather try to get Porter back up to his potential than hang onto LMA, and I would like to have a SG who can actually shoot 3s. The Wiz actually signed Dwert, who is recovering from surgery. LMA might have appeal for them.

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    Washington has to blow it up. They have to. Look there. Otto time baby.
    Yes, the Wiz just lost to Cleveland, and looked bad doing it.

    Opportunity may be knocking.

    P.S. Wall scored 1 point in 26 min.

    P.P.S. According to my calculator, the Wizards ownership thinks that point was worth $244,000.
    Last edited by JeffDuncan; 12-08-2018 at 09:55 PM.

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    That's just a spurious argument. Basketball is not a stationary game. But you feel free to try to create spacing by cutting and weakside passing when the defenders are all clogging the middle because they have no need to defend brick layers on outside shots.
    You seem to mix up the concept of "spacing" with "distance from other players". Cutting through a clogged lane generates creases and consequent spacing. It has little to do with distance.

    But whatever.

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    i will make a trade only if it’s For a very good player. I prefer To reboot everything next summer with a good pick and some young guys with more experience Like poetl, Walker , white... plus some contracts ala gasol or Mills will be more easier To trade.

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    Pau and a 2nd rounder to Nets for Demarre Carroll could be the most likely. His defensive at ude could be contagious.
    Agreed. That pick has a chance to be decent, swapping Gasol in for Carrol would only cost them $2.7 million over the next three seasons. Might be something Brooklyn would consider.

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    Gasol, Belinelli and the Spurs 2019 pick for Otto Porter

    Gasol and 2019 second round Pick for De'Marre Carrol

    Gasol and 2019 second round Pick for Trevor Ariza

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    So I guess nobody checked the link about LaMarcus to Portland, CJ McCollum to the Wiz, Beal to Spurs?

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    So I guess nobody checked the link about LaMarcus to Portland, CJ McCollum to the Wiz, Beal to Spurs?
    I didn't see that link but, I might rather have McCollum than Beal if Portland would give him for Aldridge. He'd fit very well next to Murray.

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    We have a SG. really need SF's who can hold their defensively but can shoot.

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    Gasol, Belinelli and the Spurs 2019 pick for Otto Porter

    Gasol and 2019 second round Pick for De'Marre Carrol

    Gasol and 2019 second round Pick for Trevor Ariza
    Something like this makes the most sense. I remember thinking up a trade for Beal and Green by trading Aldridge a couple months ago. However trading Aldridge, your second option, for another second option in Beal will result in a similar situation. The Spurs lack a third option and they are missing their 4th or 5th option (depending on how you see Murray)

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