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    we all get that and understand that fully. the problem is the fact that a small minority wants us all to bend over and play make believe with them. that nonsense!
    Decisions in any corporation are normally taken by a minority too, and then it's up to the rest of the workers to decide to comply or quit or get fired. I mean, this same thing operates at every level.

    You want to be the idiot that loses a decent job over words, that's certainly your right.

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    They are being coached and sexualized at a young age. 6 year olds getting their penis cut off. It's disgusting.
    How many six year olds got their penises voluntarily cut off this past year, Chris?


    Show your source since you brought this up.

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    so do you think sex and gender are interchangeable?
    i think a lot of you are not being genuine is what i think. you know what we are all saying but lets get back to this stupid ass spectrum bs for a make believe world.

    like i said, do whatever you want and be whatever you'd like but don't expect others to give a nor play make believe with you.

    Decisions in any corporation are normally taken by a minority too, and then it's up to the rest of the workers to decide to comply or quit or get fired. I mean, this same thing operates at every level.

    You want to be the idiot that loses a decent job over words, that's certainly your right.
    yep. it's just stupid as though. school teaches biology yet preaches the opposite. too comical.

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    Chris i've asked you the same yes/no question several times. you have refused to give a simple yes or no. instead you've responded with "i've never said such" and now a stupid gif. just answer yes/no. i'm not putting words in your mouth. i'm giving you repeated opportunities to use your words

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    i think a lot of you are not being genuine is what i think. you know what we are all saying but lets get back to this stupid ass spectrum bs for a make believe world.

    like i said, do whatever you want and be whatever you'd like but don't expect others to give a nor play make believe with you.
    i think you're not answering the question. you're the one who brought up people "denying the science"

    i asked "what science" and chris responded with some links discussing sex. i'm asking if you think sex and gender are interchangeable or mean the same thing. you're refusing to answer that for some reason.

    i'm not even arguing lol, i'm just asking you a question

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    Chris i've asked you the same yes/no question several times. you have refused to give a simple yes or no. instead you've responded with "i've never said such" and now a stupid gif. just answer yes/no. i'm not putting words in your mouth. i'm giving you repeated opportunities to use your words
    You're being the mini-me of Chump, per par.

    Get your own schtick. You're not clever enough to goad anyone into your low rent lawyer routine

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    i think you're not answering the question. you're the one who brought up people "denying the science"

    i asked "what science" and chris responded with some links discussing sex. i'm asking if you think sex and gender are interchangeable or mean the same thing. you're refusing to answer that for some reason.

    i'm not even arguing lol, i'm just asking you a question
    i refuse to play your dumbass game when you know damn well what i have been saying all along. you just want to give yourself a pat on the back is all.

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    You're being the mini-me of Chump, per par.
    same exact thing i thought. lmao

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    You're being the mini-me of Chump, per par.

    Get your own schtick. You're not clever enough to goad anyone into your low rent lawyer routine
    endless chirp as usual. contribute zero to any discussion. unless its about guns. then you always turn that into the false dichotomy of "you either have to ban all guns or do nothing at all." thats your entire contribution to the political forum.

    it's not a shtick or a routine. dude talks about the science of gender, responds with articles discussing sex. it's a completely fair question, and in fact one necessary to continue the discussion at all.

    i refuse to play your dumbass game when you know damn well what i have been saying all along. you just want to give yourself a pat on the back is all.
    its not a game i'm playing. you brought up the science of gender. do you think gender and sex are interchangeable or refer to the same thing? you dont think thats a pretty important point to establish if you bring up the science of gender?

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    endless chirp as usual. it's not a shtick or a routine. dude talks about the science of gender, responds with articles discussing sex. it's a completely fair question, and in fact one necessary to continue the discussion at all.


    its not a game i'm playing. you brought up the science of gender. do you think gender and sex are interchangeable or refer to the same thing? you dont think thats a pretty important point to establish if you bring up the science of gender?
    Yes or no?

    Be specific

    Is he under oath? Shouldn't you remind him since you're doing the cross examination?

    Feminine and masculine are genders
    female and male are sexes

    Oddly those who claim to have gender iden y issues want the rest of us to consider it as a sex iden y issue. The feminine male wants to be called female and the masculine female wants to be called male. I have no problem calling a feminine male "feminine male". I have a problem considering them to be female.

    So who has the confusion exactly?

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    Yes or no?

    Be specific

    Is he under oath? Shouldn't you remind him since you're doing the cross examination?
    brings up gender

    backs up his point with article about sex

    unless gender/sex are the same thing, the article is irrelevant. only way to logically continue that conversation is to establish the relationship between gender and sex

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    brings up gender

    backs up his point with article about sex

    unless gender/sex are the same thing, the article is irrelevant. only way to logically continue that conversation is to establish the relationship between gender and sex
    So you have an issue with the semantics of the argument. Oddly the semantics of the gun argument don't seem to matter as the resulting responses from the left are " muh guns" when someone points out the differences between semiauto and auto. They get used interchangeably and "you know what I mean" is the response that the left wants to be the rational thought process then.

    If you want to talk about masculine vs feminine, why use buzzwords like "gender iden y"? Why not just use the two words I used? I think Koriwhat would understand the difference between being feminine and being female.

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    So you have an issue with the semantics of the argument. Oddly the semantics of the gun argument don't seem to matter as the resulting responses from the left are " muh guns" when someone points out the differences between semiauto and auto. They get used interchangeably and "you know what I mean" is the response that the left wants to be the rational thought process then.
    the distinction between gender and sex is vital to the conversation. it's beyond mere semantics.

    semantic arguments are pedantic when everybody knows what you're talking about, but are just upset with your word choice. like when people say assault weapon instead of assault rifle in a gun conversation. you know what they meant, and they're just not adept with the terminology.

    sex and gender are different concepts altogether. that's not just a word choice issue. they're two very different things. ergo saying "there are 2 sexes" is very different than "there are 2 genders"... whereas a ban on "assault weapons" while semantically incorrect is generally understood to refer to "assault rilfes"

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    but by all means, continue to derail the conversation. it's weird that you seem to have some duty to step in and defend chris/koriwhat/derp all the time.

    maybe you just like a good underdog story

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    but by all means, continue to derail the conversation. it's weird that you seem to have some duty to step in and defend chris/koriwhat/derp all the time.

    maybe you just like a good underdog story
    Devil's advocate: on the flip side, there's a brigade of people who's only purpose is to insult and take their shots or go in pointless circles with those dudes. They wont have a relevant post in the thread at all, but as soon as one of the aforementioned posts, and EVERYONE knows what to expect, there they are to derail the thread further.

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    its not a game i'm playing. you brought up the science of gender. do you think gender and sex are interchangeable or refer to the same thing? you dont think thats a pretty important point to establish if you bring up the science of gender?
    it's totally a game you're playing and one i don't give a to entertain. it's dumb considering you know exactly where i stand by what i've stated prior.

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    Not that there's much to derail on this forum. True "discussion" down here is an unexpected by-product when it does happen.

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    Devil's advocate: on the flip side, there's a brigade of people who's only purpose is to insult and take their shots or go in pointless circles with those dudes. They wont have a relevant post in the thread at all, but as soon as one of the aforementioned posts, and EVERYONE knows what to expect, there they are to derail the thread further.
    truth!

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    the distinction between gender and sex is vital to the conversation. it's beyond mere semantics.

    semantic arguments are pedantic when everybody knows what you're talking about, but are just upset with your word choice. like when people say assault weapon instead of assault rifle in a gun conversation. you know what they meant, and they're just not adept with the terminology.
    But they don't know what they are talking about. That's the point.
    sex and gender are different concepts altogether. that's not just a word choice issue. they're two very different things. ergo saying "there are 2 sexes" is very different than "there are 2 genders"... whereas a ban on "assault weapons" while semantically incorrect is generally understood to refer to "assault rilfes"
    If you're going to argue for legislation, you should have your facts straight. Just because one argument doesn't move you and the other does doesn't make one more or less important, only more or less important to you.

    but by all means, continue to derail the conversation. it's weird that you seem to have some duty to step in and defend chris/koriwhat/derp all the time.

    maybe you just like a good underdog story
    Maybe you just like low hanging fruit, afraid to go after the bigger targets. You and your ilk here call a few posters stupid and derp constantly but you spend hours arguing with them and trying to win forum points. Would you box a re ed kid if you knew you could beat him over and over?

    Gender and sex are synonyms. Auto and semi-auto are not.

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    Devil's advocate: on the flip side, there's a brigade of people who's only purpose is to insult and take their shots or go in pointless circles with those dudes. They wont have a relevant post in the thread at all, but as soon as one of the aforementioned posts, and EVERYONE knows what to expect, there they are to derail the thread further.
    that's fair.

    i dont think that's what i'm doing here though. kw thought that people who preferred to be called by certain genders are forcing others to "ignore science"

    i think that's a topic worthy of discussion. apparently kw doesn't, despite having been the one to bring it up. chris half-heartedly tried to engage but is now just resorting to gif respones... shame

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    it's totally a game you're playing and one i don't give a to entertain. it's dumb considering you know exactly where i stand by what i've stated prior.
    YOU brought up "the science"

    now you think wanting to discuss that very science is "playing a game"

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    But they don't know what they are talking about. That's the point.
    that's my su ion. and i think its valid to clear it up so we dont wind up in the same place next time this same topic inevitably comes up

    If you're going to argue for legislation, you should have your facts straight. Just because one argument doesn't move you and the other does doesn't make one more or less important, only more or less important to you.
    i agree. the text in the ultimate legislation should be very precise and clean. when people slip up and use an incorrect term in a discussion i don't think its as big a deal. maybe you disagree.


    Maybe you just like low hanging fruit, afraid to go after the bigger targets. You and your ilk here call a few posters stupid and derp constantly but you spend hours arguing with them and trying to win forum points. Would you box a re ed kid if you knew you could beat him over and over?
    who are the "bigger" targets in the political forum, particular those with whom i disagree with on a regular basis? TSA, Darrin, djohn, reck, blake, spurs homer? I've argued with all of them. are you just upset because i dont argue with spurminator, pavlov, and winehole more often? certainly wouldn't be you, as you almost never discuss politics here

    Gender and sex are synonyms. Auto and semi-auto are not.
    and now i'm beginning to think that you don't know what you are talking about. that's the point.

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    that's my su ion. and i think its valid to clear it up so we dont wind up in the same place next time this same topic inevitably comes up


    i agree. the text in the ultimate legislation should be very precise and clean. when people slip up and use an incorrect term in a discussion i don't think its as big a deal. maybe you disagree.



    who are the "bigger" targets in the political forum, particular those with whom i disagree with on a regular basis? TSA, Darrin, djohn, reck, blake, spurs homer? I've argued with all of them. are you just upset because i dont argue with spurminator, pavlov, and winehole more often?


    and now i'm beginning to think that you don't know what you are talking about. that's the point.
    gen·der
    /ˈjendər/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
    "traditional concepts of gender"
    synonyms: sex
    "variables included age, income, and gender"

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    gen·der
    /ˈjendər/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
    "traditional concepts of gender"
    synonyms: sex
    "variables included age, income, and gender"
    oh now we're using the laymen's dictionary to argue "the science" which koriwhat brought up, even though definition #1 directly contradicts it

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