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    YOU brought up "the science"

    now you think wanting to discuss that very science is "playing a game"
    boys are boys and girls are girls, simple as that. individuality in today's day is the stupid "spectrum" that is now part of our society which is delusional and ridiculous.

    born with a then your a dude. born with a vagina then you're a chick. i don't care to read about hermaphrodites or any other mutations so stop.

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    the same dictionary says that hypothesis and theory are synonyms

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    boys are boys and girls are girls, simple as that. individuality in today's day is the stupid "spectrum" that is now part of our society which is delusional and ridiculous.

    born with a then your a dude. born with a vagina then you're a chick. i don't care to read about hermaphrodites or any other mutations so stop.
    you are 100% accurate when it comes to sex, tbh. if you have XY chromosomes and a penis, you're male. xx and a vagina, you're female.

    the point is that sex and gender are different

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    It's not an assault weapon! It's an assault-style weapon!

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    that's fair.

    i dont think that's what i'm doing here though. kw thought that people who preferred to be called by certain genders are forcing others to "ignore science"

    i think that's a topic worthy of discussion. apparently kw doesn't, despite having been the one to bring it up. chris half-heartedly tried to engage but is now just resorting to gif respones... shame

    I don't think you are, either. You're an actual contributor and never seem to go out of your way to keep tabs and deliver jabs because of course you should.

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    oh now we're using the laymen's dictionary to argue "the science" which koriwhat brought up, even though definition #1 directly contradicts it
    No, I am showing you that Gender and Sex are synonyms after you said I don't know what I am talking about. Do you prefer Urban Dictionary?

    Here's Merriam Webster:

    gender noun
    gen·​der | \ˈjen-dər \
    Definition of gender (Entry 1 of 2)
    1a : a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms
    b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass
    c : an inflectional form (see INFLECTION sense 3a) showing membership in such a subclass
    2a : SEX
    the feminine gender
    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

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    DMC same dictionary says magazine and clip are synonyms. i'm sure you'd agree with their interchangeability in a discussion about gun control

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    you're using a laymen's dictionary to discuss a scientific question. that's never going to give adequate results.

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    DMC same dictinoary says magazine and clip are synonyms. i'm sure you'd agree with their interchangeability in a discussion about gun control
    But you'd accept that one, as illustrated above in "everyone knows what they meant".

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    But you'd accept that one, as illustrated above in "everyone knows what they meant".
    if its clear from the context of the discussion that the accessory they're discussing is a magazine, yeah i'd probably see it as a semantic error.

    and here, its clear from the context of the discussion that "science claims there are only 2" is in fact a reference to sex, yet chris and kw are using that to argue about gender. that is also clear from the conversation given that we're talking about what a student preferred to be called. that's a clear reference to gender.

    what's clear is that using a laymen's dictionary is inadequate to have certain discussions. we'd both agree that a clip and magazine are two different things, yet the dictionary will refer to them as synonyms. this is also particularly true when discussing scientific topics. a theory and hypothesis are VERY different things in the world of science, and you know that as well as anybody on this board. yet the dictionary will call them synonyms.

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    DMC if we were discussing gun magazines and i posted an article that exclusively talked about clips, then that would be worthy of correction. you disagree?

    as opposed to a one-off reference during a longer discussion.

    or are you going to pretend now that it would be accurate because the dictionary says they're synonyms?

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    if its clear from the context of the discussion that the accessory they're discussing is a magazine, yeah i'd probably see it as a semantic error.
    Then it's not a legitimate example.
    and here, its clear from the context of the discussion that "science claims there are only 2" is in fact a reference to sex, yet chris and kw are using that to argue about gender. that is also clear from the conversation given that we're talking about what a student preferred to be called. that's a clear reference to gender.
    So if the spectrum of gender iden y is wide, what are the extremes? Wouldn't that be male and female or masculine and feminine?

    If that's the case, then there are only 2 genders, and the iden ies therein are a ratio of the two. Just like any binary mix, ratios can change but it's still just two ingredients.

    What's the 3rd?
    what's clear is that using a laymen's dictionary is inadequate to have certain discussions. we'd both agree that a clip and magazine are two different things, yet the dictionary will refer to them as synonyms. this is also particularly true when discussing scientific topics. a theory and hypothesis are VERY different things in the world of science, and you know that as well as anybody on this board. yet the dictionary will call them synonyms.
    It's fine for higher level discussions.

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    DMC if we were discussing gun magazines and i posted an article that exclusively talked about clips, then that would be worthy of correction. you disagree?
    I would explain the difference to you as I have done here countless times to others. I wouldn't give you yes or no Chump type paths to go down.
    as opposed to a one-off reference during a longer discussion.
    If you have a counter-argument just make it. Point out that you aren't referring to gender and define gender in how you're using the term.
    or are you going to pretend now that it would be accurate because the dictionary says they're synonyms?
    I am saying people have the freedom to use either and pundits can whittle down the conversation to specifics.

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    So clips and magazines are the same thing after all?

    Cool.

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    I would explain the difference to you as I have done here countless times to others. I wouldn't give you yes or no Chump type paths to go down.

    If you have a counter-argument just make it. Point out that you aren't referring to gender and define gender in how you're using the term.

    I am saying people have the freedom to use either and pundits can whittle down the conversation to specifics.
    i have. i pointed out to chris that the wiki article he posted was discussing gender and not sex.

    he then responded with a second article from the world health organization, highlighting a portion discussing there only being 2 sexes. i then pointed out to him that the very same article goes on to distinguish gender from sex, and outright states that in some cultures there are a wider variety of genders than the binary system that we see with sex.

    he then responded with


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    Then it's not a legitimate example.

    So if the spectrum of gender iden y is wide, what are the extremes? Wouldn't that be male and female or masculine and feminine?

    If that's the case, then there are only 2 genders, and the iden ies therein are a ratio of the two. Just like any binary mix, ratios can change but it's still just two ingredients.

    What's the 3rd?

    It's fine for higher level discussions.
    colors are on a spectrum. if the spectrum of colors are wide, what are the extremes? woulnd't that be red and violet? if thats the case, then there are only 2 colors, and the colors therein are a ratio of the two. just like in any binary mix, ratios can change but it's still just two ingredients.

    what's the 3rd?

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    honestly, i dont pretend to understand what all the genders are when people claim there are dozens of them.

    i just know the concept of gender is distinct from the concept of sex. so when people say your gender is decided on birth based on your chromosomes and sex organs, that is a conflation between sex and gender.

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    I don't think you are, either. You're an actual contributor and never seem to go out of your way to keep tabs and deliver jabs because of course you should.
    i like to think i do both. DMC pretends to hate it when people go out of their way to deliver jabs (aka chirp) but that seems to be all he does lately.

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    So clips and magazines are the same thing after all?

    Cool.
    2cents right on cue!

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    honestly, i dont pretend to understand what all the genders are when people claim there are dozens of them.

    i just know the concept of gender is distinct from the concept of sex. so when people say your gender is decided on birth based on your chromosomes and sex organs, that is a conflation between sex and gender.
    Are there more than 2 genders, yes or no?

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    colors are on a spectrum. if the spectrum of colors are wide, what are the extremes? woulnd't that be red and violet? if thats the case, then there are only 2 colors, and the colors therein are a ratio of the two. just like in any binary mix, ratios can change but it's still just two ingredients.

    what's the 3rd?
    It's a legit question. There are primary colors of course, would you agree?

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    Are there more than 2 genders, yes or no?
    yes or no? stop being chump!

    my understanding is yes. more germane to the conversation is that they are not genetically assigned at birth, as opposed to sex (which is determined by chromosomes and reflected via your reproductive organs)

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    It's a legit question. There are primary colors of course, would you agree?
    yeah.

    look, i'm not going to pretend to be incredibly knowledgeable about the various genders. i know the 2 most common ones are male and female, and that in a vast majority of cases, people of the male sex also occupy the male gender and same goes for female. that would describe almost everybody i'm acquainted with.

    the conflation between the two is pretty understandable considering we use the same "male/female" terms for both... which makes sense considering they are in most cases the same for an individual.

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    2cents right on cue!
    I'm just relieved that you won't throwing your little technical gun term hissy fits anymore, Suzy.

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    I'm just relieved that you won't throwing your little technical gun term hissy fits anymore, Suzy.
    we're comin after those AR-47's and AK-15's like no tomorrow. assault weapons are going down. extended clips too

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