And those Heat teams still ended up winning les anyway or at least made the finals.
Or the Cavs could have created it by letting Lebron vacation a couple of years in Miami, and then add Oladipo (or Giannis but he was nowhere near the same prospect) and Embiid instead of botching the Bennett pick and bailing and grabbing Love.
Or better yet could have grabbed Kawhi with the fifth pick after Kylie instead of Tristan. Would have never been bad enough to net the 2014 top pick, but maybe 2013.
It takes a perfect storm to create a superteam. And if you tank, you have to get lucky.
It's called "pull a Zaza" in Basketball, son.
If not for Curry's bad ankles...
Sticking your fat foot where someone is going to land is different than knee-capping someone with a club. And before it was "pull a Zaza", it was "pull a Bowen", son.
Who’s LD? Lloyd Daniels making a come back?
Best path to competing next year is to shed as much salary as possible around DeRozan, LMA and Murray while tanking. Then they can "hopefully" sign a dude to a near-max contract, re-sign Gay and draft the RoY.
Hypothetically:
Murray, White, Vet PG (Bayless?)
DeRozan, Walker, Young Guard (Vick at 40-45?)
Thompson, Bertans, Vet Forward (Wes Johnson?)
Hachimura, Gay, Metu
Aldridge, Poeltl, Vet Center (Koufos, Boban?)
I don't know that I think Rui is actually a fit or that he'd be the RoY. Certainly others may arguably be more suited than Middleton, and $30 Million-plus APY is a lot to spend on any role-player. Still, the point is that adding two huge talents to the core of Murray, DeRozan, Gay and Aldridge and hoping Poeltl, White and Walker are all legit role-players is likely the best path to becoming a "super team".
Here's the Capulator link to what the final roster would look like:
http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...f29d0353121939
(Ignore how I got there, because I didn't want to spend a bunch of time making trades that work. With how Mills has played, I do think they could move those contracts only having to give up a net of Milutinov and the Raptors pick. Maybe they'd need to also trade their second or future picks, but that doesn't ruin the cap math at all.)
Chill out, it was a joke. All good, son
More seriously (kind of) and not that I would ever rout for it but what also makes tanking irreleant nowadays is that players accoutability... hum hum.... and attachment to a team don't really exist anymore and that players have taken over...
When you were tanking 20 years ago for a Barkley, a Malone, a Wilkins or a Sam Perkins... I mean a Jordan, you knew you were given up one year of competing for a player you would certainly keep in your organisation for 12 or 15 years of his best years (before he eventually left at then end of his carer)...
Now, you're not certain of anything. Your star... hum hum... can explode in your hands any moment and up all your plans and what you build around him if you don't bend over and suck his whole group's s.
NO is losing Davis next year 100% and they already lost CP40M, Indy lost PG13, OKC lost Harden then Durant, Utah lost Hayward, Minny traded Love and Garnett...
How many les for all these teams ? How many Finals ?
You got as many chances statistically not tanking than tanking, excpet you don't get to suck and as a fan to rout for your players to miss game winners.
Likewise, son.
Warriors are a different type of superteam. They were already incredibly good. To get Durant like that without losing really anything was just way to much for any other team to compete with. Durant is leaving next year. Iggy career is ending before everyone's eyes. Klay and Green are testing the market. Their run may be over as early as next season. Lakers will probably offer the sun for Anthony Davis this off season.
04 pistons
Pistons won the le vs Lakers in 2004. In that year the Lakers had two players in the ASG, Kobe and Shaq.
My post was about "a team that beats other with 3 or more All-Stars"
Mavs did it in 2011 with LeBron Wade and Bosh making the ASG in the same year. The Spurs, too. Since LBJ Wade Bosh made the All Star roster in 2014.
how about 16 Cavs?
Exactly. It's about NBA history.
If we look at the history, superteams with at least 3 All-Stars -even before the original Lakers Showtime in the 80's- have won many les.
that's my point, Spurs have a long history of beating so called super teams, even though none of them were as stacked as the Warriors. You counter super teams by having a deep roster and playing team basketball. Nash, Kobe, Artest, Pau, Dwight Howard were called a super team and we swept them. Even this years Warriors don't have a good bench. The long term strategy should be keeping LA/DeRozan/Gay around while stacking up young talent with upside (as we do now with Poeltl, Murray, White, Walker) and gambling on them developing while our 3 best players remain productive. That's the only way to do it. Get in the playoffs every year and hope the super team has bad injury luck, you never know. Spurs approach is the right one
How would you say they have a history of beating superteams? In the Duncan era, they lost in the playoffs to the 04 Malone Payton Lakers, the Gasol/Kobe 08 lakers, and the 12-13 heat. Aside from beating Miami in 2014 (after that team was winded), they’ve lost to the KD warriors twice. That’s basically a 1-5 record. I’m not counting when they swept la that year since Kobe was injured
well why are you counting the Spurs - Warriors series then since Kawhi was injured?
So exluding the Lakers win and two warrior losses due to injuries, that’s 1-3 against superteams. Still not impressive.
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