wasn't that long ago that i said if you could take the warhawk out of lindsey graham, that he'd have been the best GOP candidate in the 2016 election. seeing him bend over for trump and lose his mind at the kavanaugh hearings changed my perspective of him, though.
Srsly, I think Kasich(sp?) is probably a guy I heard that said a lot of things I agreed with. Out of the collection of politicians du jour, he’s probably a guy I could vote for without a problem.
He’s not flamboyant and his message is not to blow it all up, which are easier sells in this polarized environment, but he largely sounded rational on his talking points, IMO
true, but there are plenty of liberals who don't understand it yet acknowledge it.
it's still a political dividing line
that's because by the end of the republican primary he was the only one acting like an adult on stage, so many of us sorta gravitated towards him
i dno, maybe some weird combination of elizabeth warren and sheldon whitehouse? it's an interesting question posed by OP but one that i'm having a lot of difficulty understanding. the nuance in my political worldview shows up a lot more when voting for state/county/municipal ballot measures than when voting for specific candidates tbh
That's because they are toeing the line. If you acknowledge things you don't understand, how is that worse than not acknowledging it? Either way you're making your mind up about something you have no idea about.
Consider it like the warning on a pack of cigarettes. People still smoke, even very intelligent people. Why? Because it hasn't crept up on them yet so they feel safe. Where climate is concerned, we only feel unsafe because we read the reports. The cause/correlation fallacy is in play with trends and such, and it's hard to discern the truth. So people rely on their gut, and cold days make ignorant people think global warming is a myth in the same way people they think other things that are factually incorrect.
I see so many people support this or that person then say they don't represent their worldview. So then who does? I think we'd probably all name a lot of common folks, and be surprised who we pick. I haven't seen Chomsky yet.
yeah i get that much. my question is more of "why was a line ever drawn here on a partisan basis"
yes and no, depending on the subject matter. we enjoy the fruits of a lot of technology that we may not understand the workings of. but we can acknowledge the underlying science based on the results.If you acknowledge things you don't understand, how is that worse than not acknowledging it? Either way you're making your mind up about something you have no idea about.
i get it. but see my first response in this post. i get that many people might find the science to be bologna. but why is it generally so neatly drawn along party lines? what is "conservative" about climate change skepticism?Consider it like the warning on a pack of cigarettes. People still smoke, even very intelligent people. Why? Because it hasn't crept up on them yet so they feel safe. Where climate is concerned, we only feel unsafe because we read the reports. The cause/correlation fallacy is in play with trends and such, and it's hard to discern the truth. So people rely on their gut, and cold days make ignorant people think global warming is a myth in the same way people they think other things that are factually incorrect.
i think chumplov addressed that point quite well early on. so the answer might not be somebody in politics... but then other commentators like a sam harris or christopher hitchens might not have a lot of content on other political matters you find important
Why would being a Trump hater make one's opinions more credible?
the only one i agree with, even though he was left leaning for sure and not a political hack, was bill hicks. if you want to see into my crazy head just watch his standups. lol! he and carlin spoke nothing but the truth tbh.
Because Al Gore was the mouthpiece.
You're comparing apples to oranges (see what I did there?)yes and no, depending on the subject matter. we enjoy the fruits of a lot of technology that we may not understand the workings of. but we can acknowledge the underlying science based on the results.
There's nothing nuanced about the product of technology. Even common folks can purchase a cell phone or buy a television. However climate change isn't apparent to most normal folks who don't study weather patterns and sea levels. Since the left is known as preservationists while the right focuses on conservation, the left is seen by the right as tree huggers. This term wasn't coined because of global warming.
The history of the message that morphed into "global warming", at least to them, includes things like eco terrorism. Even if they are unrelated, the hippie message of "save the world, the humans" resonates.i get it. but see my first response in this post. i get that many people might find the science to be bologna. but why is it generally so neatly drawn along party lines? what is "conservative" about climate change skepticism?
Also, there's a mixed message about global warming, partly suggesting that nothing we do will prevent it yet wanting us to impose severe restrictions on businesses for what appears to amount to waiting for the climate boogey man, and then the notion that only a couple civilized nations do anything about it and the most egregious offenders will never change, as if we should throttle our economy to keep our half of the picket fence painted even if it will decay from the other half anyhow.
Hitchens had opinions on a lot of things. Sam Harris is a hack.
i dont know much about harris. i was introduced to him here when he had some comments about the election. i mainly lumped him in with hitchens because they're often lumped together due to their advocacy for atheism.
Semantics, but they advocated against religion more than "for" atheism. They rarely mention atheism. Hitch is to Harris what MJ is to Kobe.
true true
Just to confirm, Pocahontas shapes your worldview?
mono that quote from joe barton on page 1 is kinda misleading tbh
try reading through the thread. and even the rest of that comment
I'm asking you directly right now. Is this a disconnect?
just to confirm?
no
Who shapes your worldQ?
We know who shapes yours, goose stepper.
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