White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party

[Nathan89]

who the is amy siskind and why are you the only person who goes out of your way to look up her tweets?

I saw her blatant racism and sexism get called out elsewhere so I searched for her tweet. She seems to be quite prominent. She certainly encapsulated the entirety of this thread with her proud racism and sexism towards white men.

[Spurminator]

Thank you for answering. I was not sure why you posted the article in this thread. I assumed you were under the impression that this was an article advocating for quotas or affirmative action, neither of which it ever encourages.

I'm still not sure why the proactive recruitment and advocacy for firefighting among minorities and women would bother anyone. None of your answers shed any light on that.

The part where they are bewildered by the % of men in the first paragraph for starters. Many women don't have the physical capability. Many women don't want to be firefighters. As a result they dominate other fields that they do want: teaching, nursing, etc.

"“when the topic of female firefighters came up, the importance of physical strength was consistently and spontaneously invoked to justify the relative absence of women in the fire service, but the importance of compassion (a female-stereotyped trait) was rarely, if ever, brought up to argue for bringing more women into the profession.”"

Apparently the Harvard big brains can't understand why objective strength is a bigger deal than subjective compassion. Also the fact that you don't need excessive compassion to apply medical help but you do need to be physically capable.

They gave data rationale for this opinion. "In 2016, only 4% of emergency calls to which U.S. fire departments responded were actually fires. The majority (64%) were medical emergencies."

35% of EMT's are female. If they are capable of performing those duties I see no reason a female firefighter cannot perform similar duties with the 96% of emergency calls to her department.

Yes, physical ability is one of the standards of becoming a firefighter. They also have to have knowledge in regard to fighting fires and medical knowledge because they are often first on scene. So basically you have to be well rounded. I think that's also a reason for less minorities. Just becoming an EMT(according to Google is needed to become a firefighter) for example takes longer than becoming a cop. It's probably a more extensive education as well. So comparing firefighters to cops and military is also nonsense.

Just so I'm clear, you think we should avoid recruiting minorities for firefighting jobs because firefighters have to be strong and smart?

"We determined that this is because stereotypes about women’s relative lack of physical strength and stamina have led to a widespread belief that departments have lowered their standards to accommodate female firefighters, thus undermining the integrity of the service and posing a threat to their colleagues and communities."

Departments have lowered standards. That's a fact. Therefore, the complaining about their peers "testing" women is a bull complaint. It's a natural consequence of your bull decisions.

Source needed

The same can be said about affirmative action if that means lowering standards for blacks like colleges do. That's not a hostile work environment to test them. That's people seeing if they can trust them because bull decisions may have watered down the prospects of certain demos.

Source needed

I don't think you know all about affirmative action.

[Nathan89]

Are they oppressing you?

Glad to know you have no problem with racism and sexism. Perhaps if you stopped your cleanup crew antics this wouldn't be an issue.

[Pavlov]

Glad to know you have no problem with racism and sexism. Perhaps if you stopped your cleanup crew antics this wouldn't be an issue.

You have no problem with the racism and sexism on the right, Nathan.

Perhaps you might want to look into that.

[Nathan89]

"All over the nation, fire departments are easing physical standards, in response to litigation to increase the number of women firefighters."

https://nypost.com/2015/05/05/fdnys-...-firefighting/

Lower standards for women and naturally you'll get tested. Don't cry about it and claim "hostile" work environment.

[Pavlov]

"All over the nation, fire departments are easing physical standards, in response to litigation to increase the number of women firefighters."

https://nypost.com/2015/05/05/fdnys-...-firefighting/

Lower standards for women and naturally you'll get tested. Don't cry about it and claim "hostile" work environment.

Well, are more people dying because of that?

[Nathan89]

Well, are more people dying because of that?

Don't know tbh. Just like the Harvard article didn't point out if that diversity was going to save more lives. I'll they had in the article are some subjective statements.

[Pavlov]

Don't know tbh. Just like the Harvard article didn't point out if that diversity was going to save more lives. I'll they had in the article are some subjective statements.

That's the bottom line for me--not your grievance.

[Nathan89]

Bottom line for you is being the cleanup crew for disposable people that preach racism and sexism proudly.

[Pavlov]

Bottom line for you is being the cleanup crew for disposable people that preach racism and sexism proudly.

no

Your bottom line is simply muh privilege you thought first Bernie then Trump would preserve. You're scared of women and minorities.

[Nathan89]

no

Your bottom line is simply muh privilege you thought first Bernie then Trump would preserve. You're scared of women and minorities.

Using women as a special class

[Pavlov]

Using women as a special class

you're making no sense.

[Nathan89]

you're making no sense.

Why did you highlight women?

[Pavlov]

Why did you highlight women?

you were ing about women.

[Nathan89]

you were ing about women.

Oh, so you can't comment on women without "fearing" them.

[Thanos]

Oh, so you can't comment on women without "fearing" them.

No, you can comment on them. It’s when your comment reeks of fear that the “fearing” them part kicks in.

[Nathan89]

Exactly. You can't comment or you'll create a bull narrative.

[Pavlov]

Oh, so you can't comment on women without "fearing" them.

Are you drunk?

[FrostKing]

[Nathan89]

[Nathan89]

Bernie going all in on the evil white male narrative by using misleading statistics. Surely this will bring the country together. Surely this won't breed hatred and racism.

[Nathan89]

Repost from the other thread.



1:30-
Guy- Telling us we can't talk about fairness in debate because we are white....


5:20-
Girl- What's the terminal impact of feeling white guilt?
Guy- It's genocide. We're saying all racism is bad.

5:55-
Guy- You said we couldn't talk about something because we are white. It's not that we feel guilty you are trying to make us feel guilty.
Girl- What's wrong with making you feel guilty? What's wrong with taking responsibility for what you did?
Guy- That's not what I did. I am not my ancestors. You are holding be guilty for something I didn't do.

7:15-
Guy- And we're not saying racism is good we think it's horrible. We think attributing everything white people have ever done is racism.

7:50-
Judge- This argument is like saying iden y politics doesn't matter and is bad. How is that ok?

9:08-
Guy- We're not advocating white iden y. We're not trying to be any form of racist.
Judge- You are reading been Shapiro- said in squeaky voice

10:30-
Guy- I don't think this is racist.
Girl- You don't think it's racist but you're white.

10:50-
Guy- Telling me I can't talk about something because of my race is racist.
Girl- I'm not having this conversation. - They are in a debate.

11:00-Forward- You actually get video at this point and interaction between all parties. If you want to watch any then start here.

14:30- Bias judge calls ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson white supremacists.

15:10-
Judge- I'm going to end the round.
Guy- You can end the round but I really don't think you are being an appropriate judge at this point. You are ending the round because of your own political opinions.

15:50-
Judge- I just don't think being in arguments like this is helpful.
Guy- I know what you think but why does it matter when you are not in the round.
Judge- Because it does actual phycological violence to people.

17:30-
Girl-. I don't need to tell no white man why my iden y matters.
Guy- See that's racist why does it matter that I'm white.
Girl- No, no, shut the up I don't want to hear you.

18:10:
Tournament director- I talked to the judge and do think y'all have a legitimate gripe about ending the debate in the middle. That said I don't think you have a reason to overturn the decision.

25:00- Good discussion on the debate community handling iden y politics.


Girl wins debate.

[spurraider21]

pretty sure a lot of the gender pay gap numbers fail to consider life choices. full/part time, maternity leave, etc.

[spurraider21]

nathan

that thread didnt go the way you wanted. now you're trying to have a second go and hoping it comes off less pathetic this time

[benefactor]

the HS debate again

Did you not figure out how dumb posting that was the first time, ducks jr?