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    You fools are rooting for the playoffs. The Spurs are not winning a le this year or any other year in the near future with the current roster.

    It is better for the long term of the team to get into the lottery and get lucky with a top 3 pick.
    That is the only way the spurs are getting a top talent is through the lottery.
    Or you can pick Gasol at #48, Jokic at #41, Green at # 35, etc

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    It would be totally re ed for this franchise to tank. You are basically saying all 29 NBA teams should run a tankathon cause nobody can beat the Dubs. Spurs have been the main threat in the west if not the entire NBA ever since the Dubs existed. Draymond himself even said it. If not for Nephew sitting out last year we would've been the #1 threat again.

    Add to that that the Warriors look more vulnerable than ever. Adding Cousins might actually disrupt things for them and he's coming off a major injury. Draymond can't shoot anymore and you can easily park a bad defender like Mills or Forbes on him. Add to that that they have no bench while ours is shooting lights out from 3 and you have a match up. Especially if one of the Warriors star players is injured. We still haven't seen a Warriors vs. Spurs series with both teams at full strenght so the fact if we can beat them is still up in the air. Besides that Durant is not staying there long term.

    The approach should always be building your team to counter the Dubs, get in the Playoffs and hope one of Steph/KD/Klay is injured to give yourself a shot at the le. The fact that the Spurs have 2 first round draft picks next year and could easily package them with a player to move up further in the draft is making tanking look even more ridiculous
    I never said anything about tanking because they are not tanking. The Spurs are nothing more than a middle of the pack them now and to reach the next level they are going to have to land another franchise level player and the draft is the best way to do that for the Spurs as their history is building the team through the draft. No Duncan No les. Getting that lottery pick lead to a long run of success for thye Spurs and they need another lottery bounce to get on top. Teams don't stay the same year to year so saing The Warriors are the only threat in the near future is pretty stupid as teams can add a player or two in free agency and/or through trades to easily jump past the spurs.

    Rooting for regular season wins now to take the team out of the lottery is not rooting for the future success of the team. The Toronto Spurs first round picks will be thw worst pick in the first round and the Spurs will likely not even keep it, opting not to pay the guaranteed contract and if the Spurs keep winning regular season games their own draft pick won't be a player that will make much of a difference.

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    Looking at the schedules, we could be the 4th seed soon if we hold our own these next few games.

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    I never said anything about tanking because they are not tanking. The Spurs are nothing more than a middle of the pack them now and to reach the next level they are going to have to land another franchise level player and the draft is the best way to do that for the Spurs as their history is building the team through the draft. No Duncan No les. Getting that lottery pick lead to a long run of success for thye Spurs and they need another lottery bounce to get on top. Teams don't stay the same year to year so saing The Warriors are the only threat in the near future is pretty stupid as teams can add a player or two in free agency and/or through trades to easily jump past the spurs.

    Rooting for regular season wins now to take the team out of the lottery is not rooting for the future success of the team. The Toronto Spurs first round picks will be thw worst pick in the first round and the Spurs will likely not even keep it, opting not to pay the guaranteed contract and if the Spurs keep winning regular season games their own draft pick won't be a player that will make much of a difference.

    Give this team a Bazemore type wing and it's 2nd or 3rd best in the West. And that's without DJ and Lonnie. Add the other 2 picks and the team should be a legit contender next season, especially if the young guys keep progressing. They don't need to draft a franchise player, they need to get enough youth into the rotation and then gamble that they make the leap while Aldridge/DeRozan/Gay stay on their level. And they might have late picks but their last 3 drafts got them good players and 2 of them have future All-Star potential. Dejounte Murray is a Top 10 player of the 2016 draft and was the 29th pick. If this team would tank they'd get the 7-8th pick in the draft since there are multiple tanking teams in this league. A lottery pick is not quite the difference maker that you think it is when the Spurs can find a top 10 pick with a draft pick in the lower 20s

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    Give this team a Bazemore type wing and it's 2nd or 3rd best in the West. And that's without DJ and Lonnie. Add the other 2 picks and the team should be a legit contender next season, especially if the young guys keep progressing. They don't need to draft a franchise player, they need to get enough youth into the rotation and then gamble that they make the leap while Aldridge/DeRozan/Gay stay on their level. And they might have late picks but their last 3 drafts got them good players and 2 of them have future All-Star potential. Dejounte Murray is a Top 10 player of the 2016 draft and was the 29th pick. If this team would tank they'd get the 7-8th pick in the draft since there are multiple tanking teams in this league. A lottery pick is not quite the difference maker that you think it is when the Spurs can find a top 10 pick with a draft pick in the lower 20s

    it looks like you’re A derozan fan..you don’t want to get a top so that derozan will remain as the star of the team.

    i don’t think aldridge/derozan/gay can win a le..tbh..unless derozan play like 15/16 curry.

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    it looks like you’re A derozan fan..you don’t want to get a top so that derozan will remain as the star of the team.
    not at all. I just don't see any franchise player out there that we could get to come here. Do you? And even if you can who says he won't pull a nephew? The 3 star players we have fit the culture and are coachable. That's as much as you can ask for at this point. Also none of them is on a supermax contract. So instead of finding that franchise player why not add a 4th and 5th wheel? And if those can't be All-Stars try to get borderline All-Stars/All-NBA Defenders with a 3-point shot

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    not at all. I just don't see any franchise player out there that we could get to come here. Do you?

    Then i I think we can get that on the draft..maybe we should tank next season..

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    Then i I think we can get that on the draft..maybe we should tank next season..
    Huh? Why? Seriously, I do not get this at all.

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    Then i I think we can get that on the draft..maybe we should tank next season..
    So who's your target as franchise player in the next draft? And is he a franchise player from the get go or do you have to wait 4-5 years to develop him?

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    Huh? Why? Seriously, I do not get this at all.

    we can get a franchise player on the draft..

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    So who's your target as franchise player in the next draft? And is he a franchise player from the get go or do you have to wait 4-5 years to develop him?
    did the spurs need to develop Duncan ? Duncan is already a top 5 player during his rookie season

    maybe Zion..

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    we can get a franchise player on the draft..
    Duncan is a Top 5 all time player. There is no Duncan in any draft nor will there ever be another one. Zion is an undersized PF who's career is over once he suffers an injury cause all he relies on is his athleticism

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    zion williamson

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    and Zion in his first 2 years won't be a better player than DeMar DeRozan. Besides that you will never get him anyway since teams like Cleveland, Chicago and Phoenix will try to out tank you

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    and Zion in his first 2 years won't be a better player than DeMar DeRozan. Besides that you will never get him anyway since teams like Cleveland, Chicago and Phoenix will try to out tank you
    so you are a derozan fan

    spurs can out tank anybody if pop wants it

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    spurs can out tank anybody if pop wants it
    so you want to build your franchise on an undersized 16.7% 3-point shooting PF?

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    we can get a franchise player on the draft..
    Isn't it possible that we already have the pieces? Isn't it possible that our youth could be lethal? Imagine Bertans, Murray, Forbes, Walker, White, Poetl, and Metu with a couple more years of development and gelling.

    Aldridge and Gay will still be producing for a few more years. DeRozan is still in his late 20s. And we will have two first round draft picks this year.

    Again, I simply do not understand the logic of losing when the trend line is clearly upward. It's ing stupid, is what it is. Illogic, you might say.
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    so you want to build your franchise on an undersized 16.7% 3-point shooting PF?

    Spurs can tank again..but I assure you the derozan/aldridge/gay will not win a le..

    im just rooting for them to make the playoffs.

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    Spurs can tank again..but I assure you the derozan/aldridge/gay will not win a le..

    im just rooting for them to make the playoffs.
    oh so you want to be the 76ers for the next 10 years and then once you got 10 lottery picks you go on a run to win a le in 2030. Very smart

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    Isn't it possible that we already have the pieces? Isn't it possible that our youth could be lethal? Imagine Bertans, Murray, Forbes, Walker, White, and Metu with a couple more years of development and gelling.

    Aldridge and Gay will still be producing for a few more years. DeRozan is still in his late 20s. And we will have two first round draft picks this year.

    Again, I simply do not understand the logic of losing when the trend line is clearly upward. It's ing stupid, is what it is. Illogic, you might say.
    i don’t think this roster can win a le in the future..

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    oh so you want to be the 76ers for the next 10 years and then once you got 10 lottery picks you go on a run to win a le in 2030. Very smart

    Spurs organization isn’t as dumb as the 76ers in choosing a player on the draft

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    Spurs organization isn’t as dumb as the 76ers in choosing a player on the draft
    they also not as dumb as you which is why they won't tank

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    i don’t think this roster can win a le in the future..
    They could be the 3 seed by the end of this year in the most skillful and complete conference the League has ever known. There are 14 teams that have a legitimate shot at at least an 8 seed. And yet we are still sooo young.

    You could say we are one legit 3 and D guy away from being right back in serious contention.

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    they also not as dumb as you which is why they won't tank
    maybe they have a plan to trade demar in the future for a draft/franchise player that can lead a team to le..

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    The concept of tanking does not work. Which team that hast tanked in the last decade has became a serious le contender? Philly is not, Cleveland did not tank they were just bad, and other teams dont come into mind.
    Contenders are build not by tanking, but through good scouting and knowing how to build a team. And the Spurs have proven time and time again, that they can do it. Are they contenders this year? Mayber. The way the spurs are playing rifht now and still have room for improvement i can imagine it. They are not favourite, but houston has proven that the warriors can be vulnerable.

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